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 Posted 04/13/2009  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list
The details look worn and probably cast, which is the usual way to make counterfeits. But anyways, they're probably only worth metal.
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 Posted 04/13/2009  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
How do you know that they are silver?
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 Posted 04/13/2009  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list
G'day, I'd be suspicious, because of the lack of definition in the strike.
I suggest:
first, check the weight. Ought to be 31.1 grams.
if the weight is OK, check for density. I don't know any easy way to do this, except to compare the dimensions of this item to a known silver coin of similar weight: if this item is a lot thicker, you'd know that it was made of something less dense than silver. Possible comparisons: Spanish Dollar, or any of its derivatives are about 29g.
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 Posted 04/13/2009  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
You could do a water displacement test, but to be accurate enough, you would either need to have like 10 of these coins, or really good measuring equipment.
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 Posted 04/13/2009  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I'm with Peter on this one, weigh em :)
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 Posted 04/13/2009  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
If you have a scale KurtS put up a thread that shows how to determine density.
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 Posted 04/13/2009  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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this coins are valuables?


No they're not. They're worth about $12/each after confirmed as silver.
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 Posted 04/14/2009  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list
I'm guessing they are not even silver. The texture doesn't look right, the color doesn't look right and they look very similar to some of the Chinese fakes.

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 Posted 04/14/2009  12:33 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list


The strike looks like standard Chinese counterfeits and were not produced by any legitimate US bullion company. But as stated the only 100% way to tell is to weigh it
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 Posted 04/14/2009  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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But as stated the only 100% way to tell is to weigh it


If it weighs exactly 1 oz, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is silver.
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 Posted 04/14/2009  12:55 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Can't remember who has the statistic about silver counterfeits. Someone stated that in extremely rare cases that larger silver coins actually had the correct weight. The counterfeiters were more interested in design and mass production instead of correctness of weight.

But yes a density test would be a swell addition to weighing it
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 Posted 04/14/2009  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list
G'day, just to clarify: if the weight's wrong, then it's a dud.
Density was suggested as a secondary test, only if the weight seems correct.
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 Posted 04/14/2009  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
But this is not a counterfeit coin, is it? It is a round. The weight does not prove (or disprove) anything.
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 Posted 04/14/2009  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
It can. The round has 1 troy ounce stamped on it. If it weighs short, then it can not be legit, right?
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 Posted 04/14/2009  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
If it weighs short, it weighs short.

But it doesn't guarantee that it isn't silver. Certainly someone somewhere has tried to stiff people by making underweight rounds.

But my main point remains that it doesn't prove anything if it *does* weigh exactly one ounce.



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