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Know nothing about these... but a quick search shows primarily 150g+ pieces?
9g here?
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My perception of this coin (the image of it anyway) looks like it is hanging from the ceiling.  |
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Magic bean or Alien coin Dearborn  |
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@realeswatcher Yes this is at the very low end of the size range however they did have these transition ingots that were different to the "bean money" which they used the Japanese name being Mameita-gin. They needed all these different sizes for custom amounts of silver. Now whilst people differ on where the transition between Cho-gin and Mameita-gin is, my view is that weight doesn't really define it just shape does. So to me this is still cho-gin not Mameita-gin simply because of the shape - the smallest I have ever seen was 5g which is well within the weight of most "bean money" but still has the distinctive shape. If you want to see what the bean money looked like this is a good example https://coins.ha.com/itm/japan/dive...ction-120115although there are (as noted) some fantasy pieces and a couple that I thought were fake at the time - I was at this auction bidding for the amazing ryo transition silver pattern and examined the bean money myself. The fact that HA would not accept returns is basically them accepting that they cannot properly authenticate every piece. As for the pattern I was bidding on you can see it here https://coins.ha.com/itm/japan/meij...ction-120115As you can see it has the distinctive sakura devices which would in a couple of years grace the new type Meiji 50 Sen pieces but for some reason never made it to the earlier Meiji coinage. I was gutted not to get that piece:( |
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That last one was a beauty Manos
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Man, it still looks like it is on the ceiling and the shadow is above it. I just can't turn it over ... I think it is the complete lack of any background that is throwing me off Edited by Dearborn
04/29/2024 9:41 pm
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Rotate computer or stand on hands :) The image is flipped upside down
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Well I bought it, 30 bucks I like a lottery ticket now and then, there was some bidding and it was advertised as a fantasy coin the seller knew
little of, so I can resell if it turns out to be that : or smile at the loss)
Dearborn I promise new pics when it arrive next week :)
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So picked this up for next to nothing expecting it to be a fake. Arrived today What do you think, more pics helpfull? 35mm long 9,5 gram    |
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I think it will take an expert in this field. Above my pay grade.
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@mon, as best practice is to only start one thread per coin I've merged both threads together.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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@mon, as best practice is to only start one thread per coin I've merged both threads together. Good call, thank you Spence Quote:
I think it will take an expert in this field. Above my pay grade. Yes small field this, they are usually bigger, if one gona fake why not go big. I can't even tell if its silver
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It actually looks a bit better in person than I thought before. It's still touch and go for me but I certainly would have taken the gamble at 30.
I have seen actual contemporary forgeries of bean money trade for over 100 bucks.
This thing remains curious. I have emailed a friend of mine that specializes in Edo and will let you know if he has any additional information.
I will probably go to visit the BOJ on business in a few months and will ask the curator at the BOJ museum about it if I get a chance to stop by.
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It actually looks a bit better in person than I thought before. It's still touch and go for me but I certainly would have taken the gamble at 30.
I have seen actual contemporary forgeries of bean money trade for over 100 bucks.
This thing remains curious. I have emailed a friend of mine that specializes in Edo and will let you know if he has any additional information.
I will probably go to visit the BOJ on business in a few months and will ask the curator at the BOJ museum about it if I get a chance to stop by. Thank you for taking the time and effort Manos, Its a mystery until solved:) If its silver I think they usually hade lowgrade silver in much of these, like 0,3-0,5. I hope your Edo friend have some clues
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For what its worth I tested if it was magnetic and it was not
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Posted 04/29/2024 11:24 am
Uncirculated American Silver Eagles 
