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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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In the 1980s I spent most summers working as a tour manager in France. This 10-franc piece was among my tips at the end of one tour in 1986. It appears to be made of brass and is slightly overweight. The edge lettering is very faint. The reverse rim is rough and very prominent whereas the obverse rim is virtually nonexistent. The details are less sharp than on a genuine coin. The color should be a dead giveaway that this is a fake, but it looks as though it may originally have had a reddish-brown wash, traces of which can be seen around the edges of the design and in the lettering:  Genuine coin:  Like many high-value base metal coins, this type of 10-franc coin was a tempting target for forgers, and this led to its replacement in 1988 after a false start in 1986. I wrote about the 1986-8 French 10F debacle in this thread: http://goccf.com/t/451246&whichpage=2#3901372Incidentally, gxseries, I agree that the bimetallic 10F you've posted IS fake, but genuine 10F coins of this type should attract a magnet - the centre is pure nickel, which is magnetic. Edited by NumisRob
09/06/2024 04:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Very interesting fakes thq and NumisRob!
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Moderator
United States
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Nice comparison!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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United States
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Outstanding! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2703 Posts |
Thanks jbuck! I have few more fakes of French silver coins in various metals.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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t360, after seeing your coin and comparing it with mine, I wonder whether the coins were chemically treated to recover the plating. There is no trace of plating left at all.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@thq I agree, I don't see any trace on yours. On mine there appears to be a narrow band of white residue surrounding the portrait, and some faintly white areas on the reverse in the fields above and below the 'F'.
Both of them could have been stripped as an anti-counterfeiting measure, possibly by the French authorities, so they could not be returned to circulation.
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United States
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I have few more fakes of French silver coins in various metals.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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United States
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1848-A Louis Philippe 5F in white metal, and an authentic coin of the same date and mint for comparison. The fake is significantly underweight. Nice comparison! |
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Pillar of the Community
Portugal
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Nice looking napoleon.
I have been keeping an eye for one of those platinum fakes. Found none yet. They must be rare now.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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Interesting topic! Thanks for sharing pictures everyone. jecz79: if you are looking for affordable gold plated platinum counterfeits, I would recommend Spain. These are a lot easier to find.  My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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1849-A Ceres 5F (2nd Republic). This contemporary fake is also underweight and has a somewhat granular surface. An authentic piece is provided for comparison. Very interesting! |
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