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But you know, Rob, that $1.42 looks real good on my retired military pay when I live in Canada. But it was $1.53 when I retired and moved up here 27 years ago. Correction today, as I just checked, it's $1.4136
Edited by okiecoiner 11/25/2024 8:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
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Agreed, Bill. Depends on perspective and what you are trying to do. I just do not think that a high rate helps the Canadian coin hobby. Closer to parity is an overall better situation IMO.
A high rate sends the better coins south and they stay there.
https://www.victoriancent.com2011 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner
Edited by bosox 11/25/2024 9:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Almost impossible to outbid an US bidder on Heritage or Stacks as a Canadian, with juice, exchange and HST over 70% to repatriate home, weak Canadian dollar
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Not just at the US auction houses. An American bidder in a Canadian auction pays no HST for delivery to US and converts USD to pay the invoice.
The rub, as I said, is selling. A U S consignor of Canadian material is practically forced by the exchange rate to sell in U S venues.
John100 - the exchange rate is the main reason why two of the three best large cent collections are sitting in US bank vaults.
https://www.victoriancent.com2011 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner
Edited by bosox 11/26/2024 12:57 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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I agree that Canadian sellers are having to bite the bullet and it may get worse by 6 Jan.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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January 6 ? Correction ..Jan 20 th. Not to get political, but the new guy ( the old guy reelected) coming in could spell economic disaster for the entire North American economy , with 25 per cent tariffs. I guess he conveniently forgot the USMCA. According to him his biggest accomplishment in his first term .
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Canada
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I can also attest that a lot of Canada best currency, coins, and errors resides in US and Asia, always thought this fact was kind of strange
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  United States
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Over $1.43 today and probably headed higher.
https://www.victoriancent.com2011 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Some bank sell rates today 1.47 . Thank goodness for US income ! Canada is now completely off the rails as of yesterday . Don't need to get political and have Bobby Toss me! 
Edited by Pacificoin 12/18/2024 12:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Well, today at 10:30, the official world-wide exchange rate to CDA from US is 1.4318. The 1.47 is the bank taking their 3-4% profit for meeting you at the bank window or using their computer. I have to transfer US every month for our living up here, so your taxes go up and you loose 3-4% to pay the bank. I use a US credit card up here that pays the "official" Canada rate so I don't give the bank here any extra profit with my card.
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 United States
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Too bad that the Amero never came to be.  I kid! I kid! Do not come at me! 
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@ jbuck It would have been a very good idea when the original NAFTA ( now USMCA) was put in to place , to have had a common currency . That barn door has long been shut . The Canadian Peso is going to be 1.55 to 1.65 to the USD by mid 2025 .
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 United States
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Quote: It would have been a very good idea when the original NAFTA... to have had a common currency ... Without getting too far into the weeds, we should have at least pegged our dollars together back then. 
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Back to my earlier premise of what such a high exchange rate can do to the coin market. As mentioned above, we know it makes things very, very expensive for Canadians buying from U. S. auctions. It is also a pain for American sellers of Canadian coins.
My records show I bought some coins at one USD equaled 0.91 CAD, so a hypothetical $100 CAD hammer price back then cost me $115 CAD (at 15% juice) or $126 USD.
If I sell that coin now in a Canadian auction, to get my $126 USD back the hammer has to be $126 USD x $1.43 = $180 CAD (assuming no sellers fee). Plus the buyer has to now pay 20% juice, so the price is $216 CAD. In other words, the coin has to appreciate 88% in Canadian dollars for me to get my money back in a Canadian sale. Some coins may have appreciated 88%, but most have not.
To break even, a Canadian seller of the same coin in a Canadian sale merely needs a hammer of $115 CAD, which with the now 20% juice equals $138 CAD, or 20% appreciation (neglecting the tax of course). I neglect tax, because we both pay, but in different ways. Canadians pay HST upon buying. Americans pay capital gains tax (28% of gains to Feds, plus another 0 to 9% depending on your State) upon selling.
Such a high exchange rate forces U.S. sellers to sell in American sales, where American bidders may be more inclined to pay the $126 USD hammer, plus 20%, or $151 USD. Even that can be a problem if the American bidder can find the same coin in Canada less expensively.
Unless you can time the exchange rate to your buying and selling advantage, parity is a good thing for a multinational coin market.
https://www.victoriancent.com2011 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner
Edited by bosox 12/18/2024 6:58 pm
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 United States
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Quote: Unless you can time the exchange rate to your buying and selling advantage... Not for the faint of heart.  Quote: ...parity is a good thing for a multinational coin market. I agree.  Some day. Just not today. 
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