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 Posted 11/25/2024  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
But you know, Rob, that $1.42 looks real good on my retired military pay when I live in Canada. But it was $1.53 when I retired and moved up here 27 years ago.
Correction today, as I just checked, it's $1.4136
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 Posted 11/25/2024  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Agreed, Bill. Depends on perspective and what you are trying to do. I just do not think that a high rate helps the Canadian coin hobby. Closer to parity is an overall better situation IMO.

A high rate sends the better coins south and they stay there.
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 Posted 11/25/2024  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Almost impossible to outbid an US bidder on Heritage or Stacks as a Canadian, with juice, exchange and HST over 70% to repatriate home, weak Canadian dollar
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 Posted 11/25/2024  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Not just at the US auction houses. An American bidder in a Canadian auction pays no HST for delivery to US and converts USD to pay the invoice.

The rub, as I said, is selling. A U S consignor of Canadian material is practically forced by the exchange rate to sell in U S venues.

John100 - the exchange rate is the main reason why two of the three best large cent collections are sitting in US bank vaults.
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 Posted 11/26/2024  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I agree that Canadian sellers are having to bite the bullet and it may get worse by 6 Jan.
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 Posted 11/26/2024  10:07 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
January 6 ?
Correction ..Jan 20 th.
Not to get political, but the new guy ( the old guy reelected)
coming in could spell economic disaster for the entire North American
economy , with 25 per cent tariffs. I guess he conveniently forgot
the USMCA. According to him his biggest accomplishment in his first
term .
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 Posted 11/26/2024  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
I can also attest that a lot of Canada best currency, coins, and errors resides in US and Asia, always thought this fact was kind of strange
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 Posted 12/17/2024  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Over $1.43 today and probably headed higher.
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 Posted 12/18/2024  12:57 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Some bank sell rates today 1.47 .
Thank goodness for US income !
Canada is now completely off the rails
as of yesterday .
Don't need to get political and have Bobby
Toss me!
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 Posted 12/18/2024  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Well, today at 10:30, the official world-wide exchange rate to CDA from US is 1.4318. The 1.47 is the bank taking their 3-4% profit for meeting you at the bank window or using their computer. I have to transfer US every month for our living up here, so your taxes go up and you loose 3-4% to pay the bank. I use a US credit card up here that pays the "official" Canada rate so I don't give the bank here any extra profit with my card.
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 Posted 12/18/2024  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Too bad that the Amero never came to be.

I kid! I kid! Do not come at me!
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 Posted 12/18/2024  11:59 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
@ jbuck
It would have been a very good idea when
the original NAFTA ( now USMCA) was put in
to place , to have had a common currency .
That barn door has long been shut .
The Canadian Peso is going to be
1.55 to 1.65 to the USD by mid 2025 .
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 Posted 12/18/2024  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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It would have been a very good idea when the original NAFTA... to have had a common currency ...
Without getting too far into the weeds, we should have at least pegged our dollars together back then.
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 Posted 12/18/2024  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Back to my earlier premise of what such a high exchange rate can do to the coin market. As mentioned above, we know it makes things very, very expensive for Canadians buying from U. S. auctions. It is also a pain for American sellers of Canadian coins.

My records show I bought some coins at one USD equaled 0.91 CAD, so a hypothetical $100 CAD hammer price back then cost me $115 CAD (at 15% juice) or $126 USD.

If I sell that coin now in a Canadian auction, to get my $126 USD back the hammer has to be $126 USD x $1.43 = $180 CAD (assuming no sellers fee). Plus the buyer has to now pay 20% juice, so the price is $216 CAD. In other words, the coin has to appreciate 88% in Canadian dollars for me to get my money back in a Canadian sale. Some coins may have appreciated 88%, but most have not.

To break even, a Canadian seller of the same coin in a Canadian sale merely needs a hammer of $115 CAD, which with the now 20% juice equals $138 CAD, or 20% appreciation (neglecting the tax of course). I neglect tax, because we both pay, but in different ways. Canadians pay HST upon buying. Americans pay capital gains tax (28% of gains to Feds, plus another 0 to 9% depending on your State) upon selling.

Such a high exchange rate forces U.S. sellers to sell in American sales, where American bidders may be more inclined to pay the $126 USD hammer, plus 20%, or $151 USD. Even that can be a problem if the American bidder can find the same coin in Canada less expensively.

Unless you can time the exchange rate to your buying and selling advantage, parity is a good thing for a multinational coin market.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Unless you can time the exchange rate to your buying and selling advantage...
Not for the faint of heart.

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...parity is a good thing for a multinational coin market.
I agree.

Some day. Just not today.
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