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Gtg: PCGS 1887 Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 12/04/2024  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list

It looks like a dirty tone but I see luster so I'm thinking its uncirculated from the photos
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 Posted 12/04/2024  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list
It looks like an AU55 to me, but I'll say PCGS gave it an AU58.
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 Posted 12/04/2024  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
AU53.
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 Posted 12/04/2024  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Jeez, two days to go, not sure I can stand it.
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 Posted 12/04/2024  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Tough one.....65 is how I see it
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 Posted 12/05/2024  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list
i think au, the hair is worn over the ear.
maybe dipped looks like faint traces of a print over the face
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 Posted 12/05/2024  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
Thanks for your thoughts. I'll post the grade this afternoon sometime.
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 Posted 12/05/2024  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
This is a hard one. I lean towards a very weak strike and some not great toning. MS-66
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 Posted 12/05/2024  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list
I'm with @ericgreen. I can't see a coin with this weak of a strike in a 67 holder, but I agree with ns's reasoning.
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 Posted 12/05/2024  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I see breaks in the luster on the high points. AU-58 is my guess.
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 Posted 12/05/2024  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
The big reveal:



I would have called this AU from these auction house photos, but it likely looks completely different in hand. 1887 Morgan dollars double in price from MS64 to MS65. I'm not sure I'd pay MS65 money for this example, especially from the pictures. Thank you all for your thoughts.
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One of the toughest grading candidates we've seen in a long time.
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 Posted 12/06/2024  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list
For my learning. is it a weak strike that make the hair over the ear less defined than usuall? I often associate that with wear
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For my learning. is it a weak strike that make the hair over the ear less defined than usual? I often associate that with wear


I would say it is a very weak strike. Although the coin may technically be a 65, it seems that eye appeal was not considered. I can't do an in-hand evaluation since it is for sale at GC, but I don't see any redeeming qualities that could merit a gem grade. With all my opining about market grading, it looks like this one went through PCGS differently?
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 Posted 12/14/2024  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
the limited marks and scratches keep it out of AU but I don't know how they can give this one a 65 with very little luster. maybe its the photos subduing it. but if it looks like this in hand I would not be a buying at 65 prices. to me it looks like an old over dip that has re-toned but most of the luster was stripped off.
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