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 Posted 12/11/2024  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list

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What on earth did the moron who tooled this hope to achieve?


Probably happened over a hundred years ago by some kid with a nail and too much time on his hands.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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What on earth did the moron who tooled this hope to achieve?
Indeed.

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Even in the condition it's in, it's worth significant money if genuine.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'd rather not pay grading fees on something I don't want to own, but I don't really see any other option here.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I'd rather not pay grading fees on something I don't want to own, but I don't really see any other option here.
Something to sell then?

I am not a seller, but then again, this is not my dollar.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole without 3rd party authentication.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanNomadCoins to your friends list
There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof?
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 Posted 12/11/2024  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list
One big advantage of using a TPG is that because they're a third-party, as long as they're reputable you should have more potential buyers. That being said, I would be extremely surprised if it isn't authentic.
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 Posted 12/12/2024  10:02 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If you just want it authenticated for yourself, you can pretty reliably authenticate it with an accurate weight, dimensions, metal content, and an in hand inspection by an expert. But for valuation and selling purposes, nothing will carry as much weight as TPG certification.
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 Posted 12/12/2024  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof?


The Sigma will only provide information that the coin was made from silver. There are a lot of Morgan counterfeits made from silver.

The 93S only had one obverse die, and two reverse dies used. The obverse has a raised 3 above the other numbers, and one date position that are correct on the example. The key die markers are the LIBERTY's rabbit ears on the leg of the R and the slash in the T that I have circled in blue. The Liberty die makers should still be on the example as the area is not showing any wear. If the die markers are correct, the example is going to be genuine.
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 Posted 12/12/2024  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
VG details, tooled/scratched/graffiti?
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 Posted 12/12/2024  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof?


As noted above, 90% silver counterfeits are commonly produced for high-dollar series/dates.

ANACS is relatively cheap for authentication.
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 Posted 12/12/2024  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hunter611 to your friends list
Does it matter which TPG to use for grading this type of coin?
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 Posted 12/12/2024  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list
ANACS is a good affordable option, particularly for coins like this. They're pretty consistent with their grading and would give it a specific details grade (VG8 Details vs simply VG Details). For resale, PCGS would be worth the extra $20-30 in my opinion. They usually command a premium, though with a more valuable coin like this it shouldn't matter as much (Anyone willing to spend thousands of dollars on a coin like this should know enough to evaluate it themselves). That said, PCGS-graded coins typically sell faster than the other TPGs in my experience.
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w/UnimpossibIe regarding PCGS. no matter who you would send it to its not grading straight. based on the value of the coin I would go PCGS for a few $$ more. if you are not selling now, it will still make a difference in the future if you do. it would also preserve the coin. I'm not a fan of slabbing except the following

1. its a rare coin and needs preserved and authenticated
2. the cost of slabbing makes sense based on the value of the coin and you are planning on selling it
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 Posted 12/14/2024  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Only needs to go to ANACS .
No sense spending close to a hundred
Bucks all in sending to PCGS .
As it is a dog details coin anyways
it would not sell for a large premium
in A PCGS v ANACS .
All you are worried about with a coin like
this . no questions asked as to authenticity .
That is why it needs to be TPG ed
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