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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: What on earth did the moron who tooled this hope to achieve? Probably happened over a hundred years ago by some kid with a nail and too much time on his hands.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: What on earth did the moron who tooled this hope to achieve? Indeed.  Quote: Even in the condition it's in, it's worth significant money if genuine. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd rather not pay grading fees on something I don't want to own, but I don't really see any other option here.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: I'd rather not pay grading fees on something I don't want to own, but I don't really see any other option here. Something to sell then?  I am not a seller, but then again, this is not my dollar. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole without 3rd party authentication.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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New Member
 United States
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There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof?
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Valued Member
United States
343 Posts |
One big advantage of using a TPG is that because they're a third-party, as long as they're reputable you should have more potential buyers. That being said, I would be extremely surprised if it isn't authentic.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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If you just want it authenticated for yourself, you can pretty reliably authenticate it with an accurate weight, dimensions, metal content, and an in hand inspection by an expert. But for valuation and selling purposes, nothing will carry as much weight as TPG certification.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof? The Sigma will only provide information that the coin was made from silver. There are a lot of Morgan counterfeits made from silver. The 93S only had one obverse die, and two reverse dies used. The obverse has a raised 3 above the other numbers, and one date position that are correct on the example. The key die markers are the LIBERTY's rabbit ears on the leg of the R and the slash in the T that I have circled in blue. The Liberty die makers should still be on the example as the area is not showing any wear. If the die markers are correct, the example is going to be genuine. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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VG details, tooled/scratched/graffiti?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: There must be a way to authenticate it without a TPG. If it is 90% using a Sigma is that a reliable proof? As noted above, 90% silver counterfeits are commonly produced for high-dollar series/dates. ANACS is relatively cheap for authentication.
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Valued Member
United States
338 Posts |
Does it matter which TPG to use for grading this type of coin?
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Valued Member
United States
343 Posts |
ANACS is a good affordable option, particularly for coins like this. They're pretty consistent with their grading and would give it a specific details grade (VG8 Details vs simply VG Details). For resale, PCGS would be worth the extra $20-30 in my opinion. They usually command a premium, though with a more valuable coin like this it shouldn't matter as much (Anyone willing to spend thousands of dollars on a coin like this should know enough to evaluate it themselves). That said, PCGS-graded coins typically sell faster than the other TPGs in my experience.
Edited by UnimpossibIe 12/12/2024 8:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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 w/UnimpossibIe regarding PCGS. no matter who you would send it to its not grading straight. based on the value of the coin I would go PCGS for a few $$ more. if you are not selling now, it will still make a difference in the future if you do. it would also preserve the coin. I'm not a fan of slabbing except the following 1. its a rare coin and needs preserved and authenticated 2. the cost of slabbing makes sense based on the value of the coin and you are planning on selling it
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Only needs to go to ANACS . No sense spending close to a hundred Bucks all in sending to PCGS . As it is a dog details coin anyways it would not sell for a large premium in A PCGS v ANACS . All you are worried about with a coin like this . no questions asked as to authenticity . That is why it needs to be TPG ed
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