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E&V and Greasy Fingers..... It is possibly PMD. However, if it is PMD it would have had to have been damaged a long time ago (100+ years ago). I do appreciate your skepticism as it validates this is a rare find in circulation. I maintain it is a legitimate MD clip and have no problem offering it to the community as genuine. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
01/24/2025 12:25 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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I still don't think it's a genuine Clipped Planchet. Not seeing the Blakesley Effect or weakness near the area. Also, I've seen some that looked exactly like this that were just damaged post mint. https://www.error-ref.com/_curved_clips_/I have contacted Mike Diamond to get his input. I'm very skeptical on this one being real. Until Mike Diamond speaks, I am still thinking it's not genuine Clipped Planchet.   Not trying to sound like a jerk or anything. I just want to know if it's actually genuine or not. Errers and Varietys.
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01/24/2025 01:06 am
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Definitely not one of my strong points when it comes to errors, but I thought it looked right.  -makecents-
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Pillar of the Community
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Not being a jerk either, but I'm sure you know not all clips have the Blakesley Effect.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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Pillar of the Community
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@NY ,are you able to post a focused close ups of the areas in question, the edge, obverse rim above the TRUST and reverse rim below the Wheat stalk stem? I'm having a tough time to determine wheather it is a clip or not.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm in the PMD camp here. Looks like an old hit that was smoothed through circulation. Weight could help determine this though its likely underweight due to circulation wear. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Pillar of the Community
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"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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Pillar of the Community
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Weight is 2.97  "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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Got an email from Mike Diamond, after emailing him. Here's what he said. Quote:
It's not genuine. It lacks every diagnostic one would associate with a straight clip. So it's indeed not genuine. Errers and Varietys.
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My first thought was that too much of the rim was still present. If it was a clip, some of the rim would have been missing. And it looks like the clip is tapered, cut from both ways.
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01/24/2025 3:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting Read at least!
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Pillar of the Community
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Having dealt with Mr Diamond and his expertise on a few questionable coins over the years I'm sure he would have a more substantive explanation and would be cautious to equivocate certainty without having the coin in hand. But thanks for quoting his email to you. It does tend to support your position without question.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
01/24/2025 4:53 pm
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Quote:
And it looks like the clip is tapered, cut from both ways. That was going to be my reasoning for it being PMD. Sorry NY. |
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Hmmmmmmmm....
-makecents-
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Bummer.  |
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