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It looks like PMD to me as well. |
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I'm thinking PMD as well. Errers and Varietys.
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I'm in the PSD camp. IMHO, the left rim on both sides is flattened which indicates it happened outside the striking process. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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It looks like a clash with the denticles of another coin. The indents are the reverse impression you would get if the obverse die was clashed sideways with the reverse. This is just a guess to explain the indents I see. In no
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I just noticed the indent of two stars near the diagonal indent. This would support a sideways clash with another obverse.
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Here's the eMail that I received from (the coin company):
"That definitely appears to be a legitimate error since the reeding in the left obverse field is raised and goes over the stars. Unfortunately, I can't quite figure out how it occurred. I consulted with a leading error coin expert, and he agrees with me that it looks legit, but he also wasn't sure how it happened. I would suggest your client submits the coin to NGC under their error coin tier of service."
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Pillar of the Community
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JImbo48: those two stars are seen under the reeding of the 2nd strike
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Pillar of the Community
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this little gap here, which is in the center of that flat spot on the reverse rim, is where the edge of Brockage-making Quarter met the Reeding Collar. The reeds are expanded in that area.  Edited by Oldgrouchyguy
01/26/2025 7:26 pm
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Fwiw: my first glance at the obverse told me that a hammer couldn't possibly have done what you see there. The coin had to be at a slant when it was struck (spinning?), and it was struck in a very hard manner
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Pillar of the Community
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It looks like a negative impression from a vise job.
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macmurcurie: maybe, but you cannot duplicate what you see with a vise. The coin would have be in movement, and you wouldn't receive a partial imprint-no leverage. There is no outer edge impact on my coin (it's still in collar); a vise job would ruin the edge
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01/27/2025 09:57 am
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The rim at the T of UNITED looks out of round.
If so, this happened after the coin was struck since the collar would have contained the metal.
Did the person who said it looks like a legitimate error look at it in hand.
EDIT: The secondary denticles and stars are incuse, not raised.
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Edited by Petespockets55
01/27/2025 3:02 pm
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That's where it was smashed by the 2nd strike with the Quarter on its edge  Edited by Oldgrouchyguy
01/29/2025 07:55 am
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@Oldgrouchyguy, what was your "well known coin company"? Strange to site a source without mentioning their name.
The appearance presented by this example would be impossible to achieve in the striking chamber. The displacement of the metal shows that it did not happen pre strike, but post strike. When a post strike brockage happens, the coins are always parallel to each other. When tons of pressure is exerted on two items, the coins are smashed together with the distribution of forces evenly distributed with outward expansion. Impossible that only the edge of a coin be struck into another coin with no other evidence of detail. Especially since there is no reverse impression opposite of the incuse design. The coin is scraped and damaged on the reverse which it could not achieve in the striking chamber.
The coin is clearly damaged otherwise, which further proves the mishandling of the coin after leaving the mint.
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