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Pillar of the Community
United States
1381 Posts |
I'm in the counterfeit camp. Agree with Zurie's assessment. The mintmark does not match the 4 known positions.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Looks questionable. I can't tell for sure it's counterfeit but the surfaces are "off" like they've been chemically treated, damaging the metal. Avoid. It would need to be a legitimate TPG holder to even consider buying it. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Too suspicious for me to offer a grading opinion.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
74758 Posts |
Definitely counterfeit.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2957 Posts |
Oh yeah, without even looking at the other comments, that VDB is clearly added and looks nothing like a genuine coin. The whole coin looks off, like it probably is not a genuine coin from the start. Looks too good to be true.  |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5400 Posts |
Absolutely a Chinese Fake !
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1266 Posts |
I'm not sure this is a "real" 1909 S cent, but I do think that the V.D.B. have been added to whatever it is or was..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10595 Posts |
Agree with counterfeit. The "deep" N instantly gives it away as such!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2004 Posts |
I was aware of several markers for a genuine coin and the 4 mm positions but I was not aware of the "shallow N" marker nor the dot between D and B being centered. Good information to add to my notes thanks to the knowledge of the fine members on this site.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1231 Posts |
Question other than the for mentioned are there any other true die markers for a real 09s VDB
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19966 Posts |
Appears to be cast, porous surfaces and suspect colors. The MM does not look correct either, quite a few red flags.
FAKE
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3663 Posts |
EDIT: I keep looking at this one. It definitely has some aspects of a cast counterfeit, but I also see indications such as stress lines suggesting that it may be die struck. The little rim burr above LIBERTY is interesting.
This doesn't look like the reverses I have seen on other Chinese 1909-S VDB counterfeits. I wonder if they have yet another new reverse die or if this entire fake may be a new entry in the counterfeit hall of shame. It's worth keeping these photos for future reference. I have a hunch we will see this critter again (and again and again).
Edited by fortcollins
03/26/2025 2:55 pm
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Moderator
United States
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It's worth keeping these photos for future reference. I have a hunch we will see this critter again (and again and again).  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
18689 Posts |
i have to agree with everyone. the obv die does not match any of the 4 known.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19966 Posts |
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It's worth keeping these photos for future reference. I have a hunch we will see this critter again (and again and again). It's going to wear us out.  I just noticed something SCARY, it looks like they attempted to re-create the die chip in the upper loop of the S.  Edited by BadThad
03/31/2025 8:40 pm
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