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Indian Head Cent Die-Clash (Missing Illustration)

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 Posted 08/03/2025  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinForMe to your friends list
Thank you Dearborn, these Indians have been sitting with the rest of my collection for some time now..
I just want to give them the label they deserve..
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 Posted 08/03/2025  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Those are really fine IHCs, CoinForMe, with excellent clashes to boot!
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 Posted 08/04/2025  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Nice clashes.

All I can suggest is to send an email to Maddiesclashes and include a link to this thread. It may garner some interest, and they may want to look at your coins in hand.
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All I can suggest is to send an email to Maddiesclashes and include a link to this thread. It may garner some interest, and they may want to look at your coins in hand.

Petespockets55, thanks for the suggestion.
.. I had considered that, but was hoping someone here with a good connection to Mad Die Clashes might be able to take it further.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, they show the same obverse clash—but on a coin with an earlier date.
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 Posted 08/04/2025  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwiskers to your friends list
the toned cameo on the bottom '87 is awesome ... nice clashes & great looking coins...very choice!
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 Posted 08/04/2025  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinForMe to your friends list
mrwiskers & jbuck, thank you, I was able to photograph those Indian cents using my axial photographing setup...
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I was able to photograph those Indian cents using my axial photographing setup...
Excellent!
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@CoinForMe ...
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thank you, I was able to photograph those Indian cents using my axial photographing setup...
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...I'd love to see your axial set-up ... my photos are mediocre at best, & would love to see your method, especially what equipment you're using ... any chance of a few photos ( in the appropriate section, of course) ...?
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I'd love to see your axial set-up ... my photos are mediocre at best, & would love to see your method, especially what equipment you're using ... any chance of a few photos ( in the appropriate section, of course) ...?

Sure thing, let me find the section of my computer that I have this info you asked for, give me some time.
The making of my "Copystand" with the axial setup was seen on another coin website about a year ago.
Jbuck, if you're reading this: Should I post it here or make a new thread on the making of my Copystand? This info is old news to some that visit the other coin website?
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Should I post it here or make a new thread on the making of my Copystand? This info is old news to some that visit the other coin website?

CoinForMe, there is a Coin Photography Forum for this: https://goccf.com/f/81
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Should I post it here or make a new thread on the making of my Copystand? This info is old news to some that visit the other coin website?

CoinForMe, there is a Coin Photography Forum for this: https://goccf.com/f/81
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 Posted 08/07/2025  09:27 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
https://www.maddieclashes.com/tdc-1c-1887-01/

In looking at the published tdc-1c-1887-01 die clash on MAD Die Clashes, I don't think the entry missed anything. The obverse clash marks shown by CoinForMe above don't seem to appear on the plate coin. Certainly not with the same degree of strength. I think you have a different, unlisted, and somewhat stronger 1887 IHC typical die clash. There were many clashes for that era of minting technology. The year 1887 would have certainly had more than just the one listed clash on MDC.

Nice overlay work, btw. Those are well illustrated images with a good analysis. =)
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 Posted 08/07/2025  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinForMe to your friends list
Brandmeister Thank you so much for your analysis.
I had initially thought they missed the obverse clash in front of the Indian's face, though they do show something on the lower right side.
I'm going to try reaching out to MAD Die Clashes and point them to this thread.
Thanks again for your response—I really appreciate it.
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After posting a message to the Mad Die Clashes website, I see this form, so I don't expect to get an answer from them.
I'm not asking to submit these coins, I was expecting a simple answer...

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SUBMISSIONS
Guide to Submissions
WE ARE SUSPENDING SUBMISSIONS for at least ONE YEAR

If you find a suspected Atypical, radical MAD clash, floating die clash, or Type I or Type II counterclash that is not listed on this site, STEP ONE is to use the XXXX and send a general inquiry. This is for DIE CLASHES only - not general errors or varieties. Please explain the clash you have and be prepared to email a more detailed explanation along with photos when requested. Note: It may take a few days to get an answer, please be patient.

Once the attribution has been approved, you should enclose each coin in a plastic 2X2 "flip", with a blank square of card stock in the spare sleeve for your attributer to jot notes on. Plastic flips are far easier than cardboard flips to work with as we need the coin(s) out of the flip for photography purposes. Slabs can also be submitted. Please also include an inventory with a brief explanation of each coin.

The address will be supplied once the attribution has been approved. Only send the coin or coins agreed upon - do not send extra clashes we did not discuss.

What is Atypical VS Typical? Atypical is an uncommon clash that fulfills one or more of the following characteristics:
1) The coin exhibits unusually strong die clash marks
2) There are multiple clash events (e.g., a double, triple or chatter clash)
3) The clash marks show an unusual or extreme tilt or die misalignment
4) There is an accompanying die error (like a Cud or doubled die)
5) The clash occurs on a coin with a low mintage (like a proof or maybe an older key or semi key date)

Cents, Nickels, Dimes: please enclose four dollars ($4) per coin sent in and a SASE Self Addressed Stamped Envelope (or if agreed upon, return postage (and insurance, if desired).

Half Dollars, Dollars, foreign coins, tokens or higher denominations: five dollars ($5) per coin sent and a SASE Self Addressed Stamped Envelope (or if agreed upon, return postage (and insurance, if desired). If the Morgan or Peace dollar is a suspected VAM, or a new VAM, it needs to be six dollars ($6) per coin.
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