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1941 Walking Liberty Half PCGS Submission Disappointment. Where Did This Go Wrong?

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 Posted 09/01/2026  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StackerBacker to your friends list
I haven't actually received them back yet, but will in a couple days. Where would I find that explanation? Do they include something in the box?
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 Posted Yesterday   05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Sorry to hear the PCGS wizards disappointed you. Inconsistency in their grading is why I gave up on using them, sold all my Registry coins and have never looked back.


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and it's damaged? Where? Anyone else have an idea?


Image is way too small for me to weigh in. Hope you can find it when you have the coin in hand.
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 Posted Yesterday   08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
My best guess are the black mark by liberty and around the rims. Doesn't look bad but that's the only thing I see wrong from the pictures.
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 Posted Yesterday   09:14 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Hard to see from the photos, but maybe some minimal Wrapping Machine Damage at the top of UNITED? If so, that's incredibly picky on a gorgeous coin.
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I think this may be the damage PCGS noted.

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 Posted Yesterday   10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Came back as unc details damaged
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I think this may be the damage PCGS noted.

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 Posted Yesterday   10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list
FC, is that called damage because it's otherwise an unc coin? Would that be considered damage on say an XF or AU coin.

And is this also a difference in how the this series is graded compared to say Morgan's for example.
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 Posted Yesterday   10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Very strange. I'm not really seeing much wrong with it.
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FC, is that called damage because it's otherwise an unc coin? Would that be considered damage on say an XF or AU coin.

And is this also a difference in how the this series is graded compared to say Morgan's for example.




This is just my best guess. PCGS must have seen something and this is the biggest thing that caught my eye. They may have thought it isn't a bag mark, doesn't look like a minor circulation contact, and so must be damage. Their 98 code includes "any form of metal movement, either intentional or accidental." There clearly is some metal movement here, and it is in a central location on the obverse. It doesn't mean I agree with it, but that's the most I saw on my first look.

EDIT: PCGS also lumps corrosion spot removal under their 98 code. There are a few places where there is discoloration or luster disruption on this coin, but I don't see evidence of corrosion. Maybe they saw that differently. The areas I noticed were (1) the spot above Liberty's head on the rim, (2) between the top of the seventh sun ray and Liberty's gown, (3) on Liberty's upper right arm, and (4) the area above the stop between the "F" of HALF and "D" of DOLLAR.
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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/54923491

Full size images of the coin in TrueView.

I can't say that I understand what warranted a Details Damaged grade. Perhaps something was wrong with the edge?
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 Posted Yesterday   12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Maybe that particular grader was just having a bad day at the office?
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do you have in hand photos before the coin was originally slabbed. the only reason I ask is that TV photos tend to hide a lot and the only way to see the surfaces properly is raw unslabbed. maybe the rim mark at K12 obv?

this is why I despise the TPG's and what they do. maybe what FC noted but boy that would be petty

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If that is the only thing they found . Than what is the point in having anything graded. Just about all coins that are not high ms have some form of movement from circulation.hopefully when in hand a better explanation shows it self.
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Panz, no before picture unfortunately. Maybe I missed an edge ding or something but I don't believe I would have sent it if I noticed it.
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Western, I submitted 8 coins with this order. I used up some vouchers (but I still paid for them via membership).

Out of the 8, three were previous PCGS crackouts that came back one numerical grade lower, one was a really nice 21-s Morgan that they ruled pvc damage on and didn't slab (no PVC evidence anywhere from my recollection), one was a 1925 peace that I had pegged at least a 64 and came back a 62, one 1893o Morgan with obvious rim damage that they ruled cleaned (the only submission I was happy with)

To say they crapped the bed is an understatement.

This coin however has me so irked I may resubmit just out of spite lol
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