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Need Help With 1972 DDO Attribution

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 Posted Yesterday   4:24 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Your phone is too close to the coin to focus properly. You can't fill the whole frame with the coin. It works much better if you back off, get the coin in proper focus, and then crop the image.
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I'll try that. Thanks!
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Back to CCF! I'm pretty sure it's a DDO, but I'm not sure which one it is. The pictures aren't clear enough to see the doubling clearly.
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wow, your close up images are really no good to help you - it is like looking into a fog bank.
I use my cell phone to get my image but I hold my phone about a foot and a half, then zoom in up to a factor of about 4 or 5.
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It looks like IGWT is doubled in the CCW direction. So look at DDOs 2,4,5 & 7 -- Likely #2 or #7 but, if it turns out to be #4 then rejoice, because that one is rare.


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edit: looks like Coin rejector might have nailed it [#7]

Wexler/VarietyVista marker: die dot below N in UNUM, check for the lower lip die dot
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 Posted Today  21H 7M ago  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list

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Can't help specifically with your penny, but I had sent one in for attribution a while back: came back as a doubled master die.
Here's part of what John wrote back to me:
"I always look for the die gouge inside the upper S in TRUST to identify this one." (to ID it as the doubled master)
My pic of the die gouge isn't very good in my post, but at least it will give you the location to look.
https://goccf.com/t/488645&SearchTerms=1972,penny, DDO
I have brought this up multiple times, if the B and R have a level top, it's not the doubled master die and this one has the level, not sloped tops. Very easy to see, even in very worn coins and dies.




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 Posted Today  20H 41M ago  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Definitely a counterclockwise rotated doubled die though. Better pics would be great.
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if the B and R have a level top, it's not the doubled master die

Good to know!
(Sorry, either missed [or forgot ] that)
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 Posted Today  2H 25M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Been trying to play around with my lighting and angles and it's been a struggle and my phone won't get clear enough shots of the doubling.
I hope these are at least a little better.
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Those pictures are better. Thank you, Scooby Due. I'm thinking that you have WDDO-007. Make sure to match the known die markers for WDDO-007.
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That's my problem. I can't find any die markers that match any of the DDO's.
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It's possible that it could be a different die stage.
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Actually, I think I finally see the die gouge below the initials on the bust and possibly the die gouge extending NW off the WE.
I see the faintest of die scratches above LIBERTY that seem to match in general. They're just not as obvious as the photos I comparing my coin to.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/275402393796

I have gotten a lot of mileage out of my little clip on phone magnifier, which is very similar to the one above. The light is pretty worthless, but a basic LED flashlight with a tissue wrapped around it will let you take really good magnified pictures.
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