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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think we really need to tell these younguns how "trashy" it makes them look to beg for coins, we (us older collectors on this forum) didnt get our coins holding out a cup at the corner store, we had to pay/trade for what we have or we was fortunate enough to be left some from a family member (just because you arent as fortunate doesn't give you the right to beg for coins from people on this forum). I at first got a kick out of the first little begging spree but now when they are emailing people begging for specific coins thats just way to much.I have only been collecting for about 6 months and have bought almost every coin I have and have quite a few nice examples now, just because you are working off of an allowance doesn't give you the right to beg, do like I did as a kid get off your rearend and cut grass and stay off the xbox. I myself have received coins from people but not from begging just stuff people wanted to contribute to me and I am happy for them, But never would I sit here and ask another collector to send me coins for free just because I am just starting out. I know alot of you are young and the younger generation doesn't care about the "respect" issue of it but to me respect is everything and its hard to respect someone begging for money from someone they do not even know. Sorry to come down on all of you yunguns about this situation but it just makes me want to look for another forum to contribute to if this is going to become a "beg fest" here on this forum
Sorry for the rant but its starting to make me sick at my stomache with every post asking for coins
Edited by Bryan1315
05/20/2006 7:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
Hi Bryan
I had already broached this subject in another thread,,
I think it is just a matter of learning whats up in the forum,, and a little patient teaching will go along way to turning these young collectors into valuble members of the coin collecting community.
Lets be patient and teach !! Remember Education is the key to collector success, integrity is also taught, and a definte characteristic of success.
Rick
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
Rick I just saw your other thread on it and I am sorry for almost saying the same thing again,it was just bugging me and wanted to let them know (not knowing you had already did so) how respect will go along way with this hobby and begging is a quick way to lose all respect (from me atleast)
And you are right knowledge comes with time, but if others do not tell them what they are doing wrong they will think they arent doing anything wrong (again I posted the first one before I saw yours)
Edited by Bryan1315
05/20/2006 7:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Come on guys! I've been working with these kids and they aren't "begging". They've been truthful, respectful and absolutely honest! Atleast their posts have been kind and their e-mails to the point. I've even made a suggestion for a thread for our young folks. They've given great suggestions for a possible book on collecting coins for youngsters. They've give other young people ideas for their collections and their honesty is commendable. Yes, working is always an option and I believe they know that. I also believe that they were hoping that they were speaking with adults that really wanted to help them with their own questions, doubts, errors and so forth. I too hope that every kid on the block doesn't try to take advantage of our kindness and so far they haven't. How many of us started by the kindness of someone else's heart.
Edited by dsking
05/20/2006 9:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Every coin has two sides.
I can see both sides. Wherby a happy/respectable and acceptable compromise is the answer.
Edited by KLD
05/21/2006 6:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
WOW KLD, Congrats on the 1000th post. Thats alot of info being exchanged around there
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Pillar of the Community
United States
604 Posts |
I siad I was sorry for my thread you know and please stop metining it it really annoys me if you know what I mean   |
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Please forgive the fact that I've been out of touch for a while. I now understand why the idea of having a YN section was suggested.
I propose that we develop a YN section that is visible only to our YN's (you would all have to submit your usernames and ages to me) and our established members (members with 100 or more quality posts). I think this would enable our YN's to have access to trades with trustworthy members and also give those of us who want to take the time to help our YN's have a specific place to go to do that.
All numismatic discussions (coin identifications, values, etc.) would need to be posted in the appropriate sections on the regular forum for the benefit of all members. I would move any threads that appeared to belong in another section to the appropriate place.
What do you all think?
Please realize that you all would have to patient for this change to occur as Bobby and I are going to be caught up in our move until the end of June.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
I think that is a wonderful idea for our Young Numismatists (if that even is a word)to have a place to call their own to post stuff they need help with specificially
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2365 Posts |
Yes Mom I agree wholeheartedly! They can learn from one another also and will probably come up with some interesting and educational threads for their age levels and interests.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
Indeed there might be a need for a YN section. But there is one major thing that I must point out, that is we cannot have too much handicaps / benefits in on a certain group of people.
Suppose if it takes 100 posts for YN to trade / buy etc, this will disencourage them to sign up as a YN, and hence completely backfire. On the other hand, supposely if we encourage them by giving some free cheap world coins by the end of 100 posts as an encouragement to see them learn and genuine comments about numismatics, perhaps that might work. But again, there are always advantages and disadvantages over any ideas.
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Forum Mom
United States
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YN's could still trade at 50 posts. I was looking at the security factor. I don't want new members to automatically be able to view the YN section and know who our young collectors are. I would like to see Adult members have 100 posts to be able to view and post in the YN section.
At 50 posts YN's have the same ability to trade in the B/S/T section anyway. I also think it's very important that YN's still be encouraged to post on the main forums for the benefit of all members. I do understand that YN's have questions and difficulties specific to the fact that they are young and mostly not working as they are still in school.
I am going to post a poll in the Main Forum to see how members feel about this. I hope our young collectors will also vote in the poll so I can determine the need for the section.
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Forum Mom
United States
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Valued Member
United States
177 Posts |
back to the point, are you going to make a new web site?
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Moderator
United States
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I hate to continue dragging off-topic, but a point needs to be made: A minor by definition cannot enter into a legal contract and can therefore welsh on any deal made online without fear of retribution. That is why all the sale/trade forums I keep contact with (numbering over two dozen) prohibit minors from participating. Trust me on this one - I've been down that road.
Also, consideration needs to be given to the inevitable bad apple. I don't believe we have one yet, but there will be. Does one ban an IP, or an entire subnet?
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