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Sometimes You Have To Clean A Coin.....before And After Pics

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 Posted 12/21/2009  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Lighter fluid is simply a lipophilic hydrocarbon, namely butane (CH3CH2CH2CH3). It's mostly a mixture of the two butane isomers n-butane and isobutane. Xylene would have been a much better choice since a much larger molecule and more likely to solubilize long-chain residues.

Final step should be an acetone rinse, pat dry, and put in your album.
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 Posted 12/21/2009  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
The zip strip paint remover contains xylene, and that wouldn't touch it either.

I did the adhesive tape routine again, and used a very sharp toothpick as a brayer to stick the tape to the minor areas around the devices and legend. It's back in the acetone soak now, and my camera batteries are on charge, so I'll add a picture of it a bit later.

Thanks for your input.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
...and here's my 36 dollar Seated Liberty quarter "with motto" ready for the album. The reverse is brighter than the obverse, which did not have these problems, and I should have taken a picture of that too, but there's such a software conflict between easyshare and my computer...that it's too late to do that tonight. I am pleased as punch with the way this turned out.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Looks cleaned.

btw, what does the obverse look like?
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 Posted 12/22/2009  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
It looks something like this....but in flourecent lighting..with this camera, the image is not the best. Color reproduction is always too blue, and it gets kind of washed out. I'm still learning on the pictures end of things, and really ought to consider a better camera.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Good job. You took a ugly coin that most would not want and made it look a lot better. I would put that in my type set book.
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 Posted 12/22/2009  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I'm still learning on the pictures end of things, and really ought to consider a better camera.


We have a place where you can learn about that.

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...?FORUM_ID=81
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 Posted 12/22/2009  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
It actually looks quite nice in hand, and considerably better than the pictures. Aside from the reverse being brighter, it looks quite "normal".
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 Posted 12/22/2009  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
That is rather a new one on me. Most people spend a lot of time and money attepting to remove tape and tape glues from coins. Of course all the previous attempts may well have loosened the contaminates so the tape worked do to that, maybe. Then too remember that there are numersous brands and types of masking tapes on the market and you may have been the lucky one to pick just the right one. Regardless, that coin sure is improved.
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 Posted 12/22/2009  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
...um....yeah... I'll second what BadThad said!
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 Posted 12/22/2009  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list
I'd say it is great for a personal collection. But if you send it in to get it graded I suspect they will slap a cleaned annotation on it pretty quickly. Although, if you were to sell it you will probably get more money for it looking like it does now than it did when it was so grimy.
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 Posted 12/22/2009  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
There are some coins that deserve the attention of a TPG...and some that don't. This one's in the latter category. I wanted an inexpensive representative of this type, and this was the best way I found to do it. I think that once it tones down a bit, it probably would grade....remember, you can't "really" see what this one looks like because of the crappy picture. I wish the obverse looked as good as the reverse, which still has substantial mint luster remaining, and which is not hairlined at all. These pictures were good enough to suggest just how effective lifting an insoluble contaminant from a coin via tape can be....and that's all I intended. I wouldn't dream of trying to sell the coin from these pictures....though I am sure I could make money on it. Then I'd need one for my 7070 again, so I'm just going to quit while I'm ahead.

I have 3 coins chosen for my initial submission to PCGS....an 1883 CC Morgan that's 63-64, an 1822 Overton 101 Bust half that's easily a 63, and maybe higher, and an 1880 Shield nickel in AU. I need to decide what coin No 4 will be. Perhaps a modern gold commemorative. I really need to dig a bit though. I'll bet I have something better than that for the 4th coin. I might as well get my money's worth out of the 4 free submissions. No sense in sending something of low monetary value if I don't have to.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arktekt3j to your friends list
You did a great job. Some people don't think you should ever touch/clean a coin. Those people are just plain wrong. This coin was the perfect example. $36 bucks bought a pretty bad looking coin. The value of that coin has at the very least remained $36 if not gone up $1.
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 Posted 12/23/2009  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am usually in the "leave it alone" camp, but in this case, you made lemonade from a lemon. Sometimes we just want to experiment and I say good job. Since it is for your album, your opinion of the coin is the only one that matters.
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 Posted 12/23/2009  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list
I am not somebody who cleans every coin either. I wanted a decent example of a Seated Liberty quarter with the motto, and this certainly qualifies to me. There are coins in the 7070 album that are going to set me back a bit...and this issue didn't need to be one of them.

I just saw an ended auction for a "cleaned" 1876-S, and it brought 71 dollars...so I think I'm OK. I couldn't find anything that didn't look like the "Pillsbury doughboy" or "Casper" for 36.00. That reverse will tone down. I may leave it sit on the upstairs window sill that gets the morning light for a while. I'm still waiting for my album to arrive anyway. I have a lot of the coins for it already, probably over half, and they all currently reside in airtites.

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