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The reason that I am thinking that we need to look in another area is that all of the pictures that you have posted are dead ringers for a certain vams, but the pictures don't connect with each other to make just "one' VAM. Does this thing have scribbles? |
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acually it does have scribles...Lord knows how I hate scribles, but I was refered to them none the less...as a alternate listing of die cracks for the 21-D....
AS a main feature for the 21's. and I am nooooo expert..but listed die fractures/cracks have many main focal points,,,,so to is it with the SCRIBBLES...
the pictures I have submitted are close to many a listing,, but however they are different......but to appease the few masses.....me and you and others, I will take some pics of STATES.....by the way they don't match.... LOL Pleas give me a few moments to post them.....Gene
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here are some added pictures, but I think the main item in your evaluations is the die crack in united between the E and D that is evident in the denticles to the right of the D.here are some pics...pics to big....sorry BRB ok let me try again     I hope this helps |
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from my meager experience with the 21-d die breaks...the Breaks are the key to diagnostics for any of the vams......the cracks are secondary in nature...on this coin, nothing on vamworld lines up with this coin,die breaks being the criticle diagnostic factor.. the break between the ED in united is not a match nor does any break in this area go into the denticles as shown... I hope Super Dave can jump in and shed some light on the subject.......as always appreciate your ideas....Aladin
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Yeah, for sure Super D would be your best bet. I hope that you also know that I am mote than just a wisecracker; I actually did spend my entire morning eliminating possibilities from what turned into a seemingly endless list. I have eliminated the vast majority of them, and have narrowed it down to 55 scribbles, and 32 normal varieties. I will email you the list if you like, but my best suggestion would be to throw this coin in the nearest lake and never, ever look at another 1921 Morgan unless a huge Cud jumps out at you from a distance of at least five feet away. |
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Compare it to the VAM 1K. |
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Quote:Compare it to the VAM 1K. VAM-1K, you say? Ask and ye shall receive:      I gotta get ready for work, and can't spend the time to help attribute yet. If the issue is still open tonight when I get home we'll see what we can do. |
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I have been offline for this last week from viruses,
the 21-D 1K doesn't match up but the cracks around the D in united are similare, but the OVS cracks around the neck are completely different, I did wade thru the scribbles pages and couldn't find it either, any help is appreciated....
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I hope you know that I have gone through every picture, every crack map and every description more than just a couple of times; I probably have 4 or 5 hours in this coin.
It is not listed (for sure). I guess you know what to do with it, don't you Buddy?
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as you have, I also have and much more....but I must thankyou for your time, I have left the
other in search of answers I find....and confirmation of things I know....are not found...thankyou my friend.....for your time and confirmation.......Al
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I have been beating my head against this one for days, with no appreciable result.
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I think I will put in the send in box, is there a minimum requirement or
can a send in just a few?
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I have heard conflicting things about a minimum of 5 or 10, but not from anyone who probably knew what they were talking about, so there might not be a minimum at all.
I'll bet that one of the guys here knows though.
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The VAM 1K is a real nice match. But, you say the cracks at the neck don't match. I see that too. Could this be a LDS?  |
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I too, had considered that possibility Chris, thinking maybe a 1K3 designation might be looming in the wings, but, the reverses do not match. I think that this is an entirely new pairing from two entirely new dies (unthinkable as that may sound). Do you know of any minimum number of coins that can be submitted to LVA at one time?
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