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Sounds like good advice Ozland. I've been putting off VAM's because it seemed so overwhelming. But, so did all the Lincoln varieties and errors. And with time, memorization and repetition kicked in. I don't have them all memorized of course, but I know a lot of them, and more importantly, know when something doesn't look right. I have been checking out the VAMWorld tutorials and will probably do them a few more times. Soon, I'll be posting pics and asking dumb questions over here - can't wait! |
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Vamming is a numismatic forensics. If you going to go in to vamming, there is a lot you need to learn. The VAM attribution 101 guide was written to help someone just getting started understand their way around the Morgan and Peace dollar and to acquaint them with the various terms and definitions. I would suggest a limited focus first to see what you like and want to pursue. Seated Nut, Bryan 1315, Super Dave, Ocsjr and myself will be available to help answer your questions. You will have a lot of them. One of my VAM goals that I went for was an uncirculated set of 1878-P B1 reverse Morgan dollars. I found that a very pleasurable pursuit. Learning B1 reverses will help you get started especially understanding 1878-P Morgan dollars. |
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Quote:One of my VAM goals that I went for was an uncirculated set of 1878-P B1 reverse Morgan dollars. I found that a very pleasurable pursuit. A man after my own heart. I have 2 coins getting ready to go get their attribution on their label just as soon as I get this camaro buttoned up that will put my collectors society B1 reverse Morgans back in the #1 slot and hopefully it will be enough to keep it there for awhile. There is a VAM-80 in MS-64DPL (unattributed) on heritage that if I wasn't doing this car right now I would purchase and would definitely put it way above the top set now unless it ends up in his set, then I wouldn't have much of a chance of catching up with them for awhile |
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Vamming is a numismatic forensics You said a mouthful! Dear Lord, what have I gotten myself into? |
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Vamming is numismatic forensics. There are no two ways around this: You have a lot to learn. But if you like variety, it will open your eyes to the many and varied differences the Morgan and Peace dollar series have. If you like repunched dates, spectacular die cracks, rim Cuds, clashed letters, counter clashing, misaligned dies and if you possess a curious nature, you will enjoy vamming and it will offer you a life time of collecting enjoyment. |
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If not, then you might think vamming is like comparing pimples on someone's buttocks.
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If not, then you might think vamming is like comparing pimples on someone's buttocks. - I'll pass!  Quote:If you like repunched dates, spectacular die cracks, rim Cuds, clashed letters, counter clashing, misaligned dies and if you possess a curious nature, you will enjoy vamming and it will offer you a life time of collecting enjoyment.  I'll take this one. |
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So, I went in today armed with my 12 hours of knowledge and nothing jumped out at me as far as die clashes, letter transfers, doubling or anything like that. But, I couldn't go home empty handed! I had to have something! So I bought a.....can't tell ya.
I've literally spent the last 9 hours perusing VAMWorld trying to figure out what I've got (you know how many rolls I could have searched by now?). If I can't find an exact match, does that mean I just have a regular old run the mill coin for that year? Or should I still be able to match it up with something?
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You may have beginners luck in that you may indeed have an unidentified die pair. That is equivalent to hitting a home run in your first at bat. Then again, you may have a VAM 1. Why not share with us and let's see if we can help you attribute it? |
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LOL - I wish. I could never be that lucky. I'm sure it's just that I'm not going about attributing it the right way. I was hoping to figure it out on my own. But, anyway here's what I "THINK I know: It's an 1881-S with the normal die obverse. It has the die chips between the top and bottom loops of the first 8. The mintmark looks to me like it is low and shifted left. I can't tell if it's RPM, it kind of resembles the "filled S" description you commonly hear referring to other coins. I don't see any clash marks, die cracks, or anything else. Give me just a few minutes and I'll be back with pics. I was really hoping to figure this out on my own, but I can see I'm going to need help. By the way, the featured VAM at VAMWorld was the 1921-P VAM 3i Meteor shower. If that is the kind of stuff to look forward to, this will be awesome! I want one of those already! Edited by Scooby Due
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It appears your coin has a re-punched mint mark.
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So, when you go to attribute a coin, would that narrow your search down to S/S down or left? What would be my next step?
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On many pages on Vamworld on the date and mm page you can view the different mint mark type in that given year. Narrow down that type and look at the other pick up points from there. Its kind of like putting it in a funnel. A process of elimination.
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Also look at the date. Determine if it is a near date, normal date, or far date. Examine the date for doubling.
See the attribution 101 guide on vamworld for help in determining how to tell if a date is near, far or normal.
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Posted 03/25/2010 10:53 pm
