Mint Sets With The White Envelope

speck, id give him the benefit of the doubt if he did some research and didnt refuse to open an envelope that was not issued sealed, and, as halfwitty pointed out, allege what their condition is without unsealing it.

He has a pretty good rating selling many coins.

I guess my benefit of the doubt doesn't extend to what seems like evident experience,yet stalling about the 69 mint set.

He may/could say, "hey, it's sealed shut and I dont want to open it, whether or not it came sealed/unsealed when issued.....but my x-ray vision tells me the coins are in ______ condition because I read coin Braille through envelopes !"

:)

I sold (on ebay) some sealed envelope UNC and PR sets from years they were issued sealed with the caveat emptor that I do not know what condition the coins are in because they have never been opened.



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halfwitty; UNC and PR sets came in envelopes that year...for fear of waking the wife, I cant go rummaging in my office and look to tell you which was which.

Seems odd that he won't open it. That envelope isn't the important "sealed" part anyway. The cellophane wrapper is. ebay buyers do strange things so maybe he's correct in thinking that people will pay a premium for a coin set so untouched that even the paper envelope wasn't opened. But I wouldn't buy it. I fully agree with the idea that humidity is what sealed it. I just got many of my proof sets back from my parents house after 15 years and some of them had sealed themselves in their original envelopes.

I have a proof set (1959 I think) that has a tiny spot on the Franklin. It looks like a little bit of toning, but I suspect it happened in the mint as the spot hasn't changed in my 20 years of owning it. Even if his story about the envelope being sealed by the mint was true you could still end up with a defective set due to mint error.

The half would be silver clad.That's it.

Force, I notice he has 10 of these sets available. I wonder if all ten sets are sealed.

Jim

I don't think I have ever seen a post 64 set, proof or mint that wasn't in a white envelope.


same thing in reverse, I don't think I have ever seen a pre 65 set that wasn't in a manila envelope.



A lot of collectors will pay a premium for sets in sealed envelope under the belief that the sets inside have never been picked over and they have a better chance of finding cameos or high quality sets as compared to sets with open envelopes. A lot of "smart" operators know this and will cherry pick their sets, then seal the envelopes and sell the dross to those believers in sealed sets at a premium price. I have even seen "sealed" sets that when they opened contained a card with Washers attached to approximate the weight of the coins. This can be done because often the sealed sets are sold from one wholesaler to another with no one ever opening them. Have also seen "sealed 1970 mint sets that when opened had had the 70-D half dollar removed and ten the envelope sealed. Buying a sealed set is a pig in a poke and I would never do it.

My only caution is for those of you with unsealed sets from that era is "DON'T LICK THE ENVELOPES!"

(The Seinfeld fans in the audience can appreciate that one.)

I don't know I don't buy mint sets.