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Bedrock of the Community
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I didn't get to see the pictures but will definately be watching to see them if he ever gets them back up
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I can't even see the pics.
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You can click to view full size of those pictures
What's more, how could I delete unwanted pictures that I've uploaded to this community's host before?
Edited by Alf_coin
07/09/2006 12:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Whats that big chunk missing on the obverse...is it from a broken die or something?
Edited by Tpatna
07/09/2006 12:30 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Tpatna
Whjats that big chunk missing on the obverse...is it from a broken die or something?
Huh, Who knows? I don't know, too. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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hmm, did this thing come from china? I have to say I am no good with detecting counterfits but that thing just looks awful weird to me. The s as mentioned in the above post and what looks like cast marks on it (it may be circulation marks) but I am no good at grading circulated coins anyway so I will sit this one out even though I hate to do it. I will just mark this one up as a learning experience along with you Alf_coin. I want to add just because I mentioned the word counterfit is in no way indicating that this is counterfit because I just dont know. The "S" mint mark does look a little on the small side to me though. The date even looks wrong to me, I have never seen a "5" like that on a Morgan but again it could be from circulation I just dont know
Edited by Bryan1315
07/09/2006 01:54 am
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ok now that I study it further, it looks like they used the reverse from a 1921-S on it, the arrow feathers and the small S are both like the 1921-S and the 1885 would have a top feather on the arrow pointing upwards like the 1879 so bud I am leaning towards counterfit more than I was at first but am still not 100% positive so I will leave it up to someone else who can tell you 100% either way. I will definately keep an eye on it though Here is what an original 1885-S reverse looks like, notice the top feather on the arrow how it is pointing upward where yours is like the 1921-S reverse?Image Insert:![How-About-This-One-1885-S?-[pic.-Updated]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Bryan1315/2006791216_e3_1.jpg) Here is a 1921-S reverse![How-About-This-One-1885-S?-[pic.-Updated]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Bryan1315/2006791633_DSCN8235.jpg) So with these findings I am atleast 95% sure its counterfit but there is still the 5% chance I am wrong Edited by Bryan1315
07/09/2006 02:07 am
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I hate to say it but I also believe this is a fake and here is why I say that. When a coin is poured and not stamped like all U.S.Mint coins are, you get slag marks.Slag marks are impurities in the metals being used and show up as tiny dark bubbles that form on the surface of the coin when it is poured.
I can see this in a number of places on this coin. You can see one on the "D" in UNITED and the "A" in STATES,but most of all they will show up in the denticles (the tiny teeth like marks on the edge of the coin)you can see one in the denticles between "O" and "F" in OF, just below the "E" in ONE and straight above the second "U" in UNUM and another under the second star left of the date mark.If you take a 10X loupe and go over the entire denticle area,I believe you will find more.
Also,as Bryan said theres something just not right with the mint mark and the date numbers. When you look at a coin hundreds and thousands of times you get to know when something is out of place.
This is my opinion only and I could be wrong but I'm 99.9% sure I'm not.
Edited by TLS5933
07/09/2006 09:03 am
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It's counterfeit. That's a 1921-only reverse.
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Thanks to Bryan1315, SuperDave, TLS5933, ziggy29 and other friends watching this one.
YES, it came from China.
Dear Bruan1315, What's so-called "the top feather on the arrow" ?
Do you mean the peak part of the eagle's waving wing, which is in the midst of "UNITED" and "STATES", "OF" and "AMERICA"?
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no the top feather of the arrow that the eagle is holding, I will circle what I am refering to ![How-About-This-One-1885-S?-[pic.-Updated]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Bryan1315/20067911812_2006791216_e3_1.jpg) ![How-About-This-One-1885-S?-[pic.-Updated]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Bryan1315/20067911839_2006791633_DSCN8235.jpg) only the reverse of 1878 and 1921 has the top feather thats not sticking up, and 1921 reverse will have the small mint mark like yours hasEdited by Bryan1315
07/09/2006 12:11 pm
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Got itŁĄ
Did you mean that:
1921's top feather looks smooth while 1885's top feather looks rough due to it's sticking up?
Thanks!
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