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US $205.80 Congratulations! Someone will learn the hard way. Here is where no experience reigns. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Someone is going to be very disappointed.
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jprine, can you post a link to that thread? I'm curious to see your coin. thanks TDColl, here is the link: https://goccf.com/t/62685&SearchTerms=7070I was one of the ones that questioned the authenticity of his 1876-s Trade dollar. I compared it to my 1876-s PCGS AU-55, in which there was a large variance between the thickness of the rim compared to the denticles. I recall reading on cointalk(I think it was actually your thread) about the thickness of the rim being a possible counterfeit indication. The rest of his coin looked authentic to me, so I was 50/50 on it. Fortunately, his turned out to be authentic...  I guess on certain dates then, there is a large variance between the width of the rim compared to the denticles? |
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Wow - great post Johnny... So does that mean there are multiple varieties of the 1876 trade, or?... Should I not trust ANACS graded coins?... or... what?  |
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It wasn't represented well for a $200 coin, and too, high risk for a counterfeit
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Wow - great post Johnny... So does that mean there are multiple varieties of the 1876 trade, or?... Should I not trust ANACS graded coins?... or... what? I would say that ANACS is a very trustworthy TPG. If they say it's authentic, then it is imo. So, I really don't know. Most of the genuine Trade dollars I've seen don't have rims that thick compared to the denticles. I'd like to here TDColl's opinion of this, since he is much more knowlegable about Trade dollars than I. |
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I noticed that in the other thread you posted - linked to cointalk - there was a counterfeit in a counterfeit ANACS slab. Oy.
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True, but in the cointalk thread, that coin was purchased already "certified" and had not been submitted by the buyer. Jprine submitted himself, so there is no chance in his case for him to have gotten a counterfeit slab. BTW, that article was written by KSparrow on cointalk(who is TDColl on coincommunity). So he is our resident expert..:-)
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Right. I'm just saying that this counterfeit thing is tough... =)
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Yep, no doubt about that.
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Thanks for the link, Johnny. " was one of the ones that questioned the authenticity of his 1876-s Trade dollar. I compared it to my 1876-s PCGS AU-55, in which there was a large variance between the thickness of the rim compared to the denticles. I recall reading on cointalk(I think it was actually your thread) about the thickness of the rim being a possible counterfeit indication. The rest of his coin looked authentic to me, so I was 50/50 on it. Fortunately, his turned out to be authentic... I guess on certain dates then, there is a large variance between the width of the rim compared to the denticles?" In my experience, it is unusual to find much variation between the rim width and the length of the denticles. The exception would be a coin struck slightly off center, where a wider rim on one side would be offset by a narrower rim opposite. In the coin shown in the linked thread, I believe the apparent "fat" rim is an artifact of the photography. I would have leaned towards "authentic" on that one, the caveat being I could not see the denticles clearly in the images. |
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100% fake, even with those pictures. Hopefully the buyer uses the return policy...looks like the seller is probably just inexperienced.
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amazing, really...both sides look convex to me.
What with the overall condition of the obverse, the depth of relief on the high points should not be as high as they are.
as someone else said: junk
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05/21/2010 07:43 am
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Indeed, it does look like it is counterfit. I sincerely hope that the buyer comes to realize this and returns it (if possible). People like this on ebay should be stopped because they are ruining the market; sell it as a replica if it indeed is a fake. On the other hand, it is possible that the seller does not know it is fake either, maybe a gift for mom or dad. That would mean they are not doing anything wrong either. |
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