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Pillar of the Community
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looks to be UNC... Just been knocked around in the bag a bit... nice coin tho...  |
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I would call this an MS-63 coin.
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United States
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I agree, a frosty UNC coin.
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Rest in Peace
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This is definitely an uncirculated coin imho.
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Pillar of the Community
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One more vote for Unc. The luster is strong and completely intact from the rims to the devices, with none of the field dullness that shows up on AU Morgans. The scuffs (a.k.a. "luster grazes") on the protrait all look shallow so they won't affect the grade all that much. If the seller says MS-63 I'd call him an honest man (unless he's a woman!).
It looks like a pretty good strike, too. The slight weakness at the ear is very minor IMO. The breast feathers look full and frosty.
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Rest in Peace
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It almost looks like MS-64 PL
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like a solid 63 in the photos and it's hardly a "weak" strike. The strike is at least average and maybe better than average. Quote:
I hope you can see the ringlet of hair and ear clearly because they appear flat from a little wear.
That area is one of the highest points on the coin and often does not fully strike up even on good strikes. |
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you have to remember one thing Thats MOST IMPORTANT,
your thread is based upon the photo's and grading estimates received by the previous photo's given then....And I would have to agree with SD from AU58 to 64 as they were not really good photo's and the details necessary like your close ups you have today make the world of difference........It is OK to not agree with the previous assessment, and better would have been to add these photo's to the previous thread...And I'm not disagreeing with you, rather that there are many here who give hundreds of hours of free research and opinions based on what they are given at the time....Its not fare to to call them out like.... this when a few good photo's makes all the difference ..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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it looks to be UNC to me from those pictures. I don't see anything that looks like rub on any high points and no breaking in the luster. it also looks like it may have a little die wear but looks sharply struck from these photos to me
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Gosh, I don't know much, but it's hard to imagine a coin of that luster ever being traded in circulation. If anything had been rubbed off - ANYTHING - it seems like it would've lost a lot more luster. Unless it was traded by people wearing alpaca mittens. =)
The reverse seems like a reasonable strike, but I see your point about the obverse.
Bottom line, if you're not happy with the deal, walk away. There are others out there...
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Pillar of the Community
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Definitely Unc.
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07/13/2010 3:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I could see it getting a MS-63.. Quote:
I DO have a "pet peave" with the grading systems and the IDEA that an AU coin is just a breath away from MS64, just does not add up.... Are you talking about AU58? A AU-58 may or may not be a breath away from MS-64/63, it depends on the particular coin. A coin that exhibits MS-64 details but a tiny bit of wear in the hair or other focal point (signs of very light circulation) is thus relegated to the AU-58 grade. Without the slight rub it would be a MS-64. This is also where the term "AU slider" or "AU-63" "AU64" comes from. |
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I do understand the terms Cownas22, Its just that I do see to many coins already in holders with rubs in the prime areas , by the books the number of marks supposedly determine the grade, at least for the past 25 years it was.. I have heard that they are tightening up the standards which is why I asked, what of all the previously graded coins already in holders?Perhaps a new thread on the subject would be a good Idea, I would like to know and understand more, as this effects the over all value of the coin and weather you bought a good deal or just blew too much money on the roulette wheel again!!
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True, if they do tighten up the standards It becomes even more complex when looking to purchase a coin in a olf rattler vs a coin in a 2009 slab vs a coin in the new "standard" slab... If you send in a coin that was graded a year or so ago would they lower the grade under the tightened standard?
Certainly more questions than I have answers
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My whole grading premise was due to that ringlet. Most MS63 coins I've seen have a little more definition than seen here. I hate to use any one source for grading and wanted a consensus of sorts. If you go to PCGS Coin Facts and On-line Photo Grade, the ringlet appears "flat" through the MS64 grade. Not until 65 and higher do you see that the ringlet has more definition. Thanks gang----good discussion.
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