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Is This What We Call A Rub?

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 Posted 07/13/2010  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattbrowning7 to your friends list
Ok but what are those marks? They're different from any other marks on the coin and isolated on the jaw.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Is that 1884 an "S"?

Overall great appeal to me!
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 Posted 07/13/2010  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Probably slid against something a long time ago.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattbrowning7 to your friends list
O Lord no. Haha, its 1884-O.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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They're different from any other marks on the coin and isolated on the jaw.


Unless you are talking about some marks I can't see, they look the same as the lines between the stars near the chin.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list
How about the flat spot in the hair just above the ear, is that rub or normal?
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 Posted 07/13/2010  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
I think the lines by the stars are FLOW lines the metal flowing under extreme heat from the pressure of the coining, though Zeewool could fill you more in on that part..the marks on the chin ever so small in had are some kind of friction from something , even a cloth mark as some coins were kept in drawers..
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 Posted 07/13/2010  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Those lines look the same as the ones by the stars, they could be flows lines as aladinslamp pointed out.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Thats another possibility, too.
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 Posted 07/14/2010  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattbrowning7 to your friends list
All good possibilities, originally I was thinking thumbed because of how PCGS describes a thumbed coin.


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One common variation of nose grease is a process called thumbing, which is used mainly on silver dollars. In this process, the skin oils are rubbed across the desired area, with the thumb acting like a brush, rubbing the oils into the "skin" of the coin. This method is often used to obscure shiny lines or marks on the face of Miss Liberty on Morgan and Peace dollars, and is sometimes so minor that it is nearly undetectable.

When the coin is tilted under a good light source, the marks or hairlines that have been obscured by the thumbing are visible.


http://64.94.212.249/articles/artic...d=313&type=1

This could explain why I can only see the hairlines at an angle and also that they are brown due to finger oils.

But yes they look a lot like flow lines. Its just weird to see flow lines in the face.
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 Posted 07/14/2010  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
thats an interesting Idea, and more plausable, and unlikely flowlines on the face in just one minor location
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 Posted 07/14/2010  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list
Thanks for the link, Matt. PCGS does provide good info.
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 Posted 07/15/2010  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zazenboy to your friends list
I would have said thumbed until I saw the same markings over by the rim. Looks like imprint of a burlap sack, perhaps your coin was at the very bottom of a decades-old sealed bag that remained untouched in storage.
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 Posted 07/16/2010  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list
My humble thoughts are that although I have know idea what caused the effect, it is most definitely post mint.
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 Posted 07/18/2010  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Gorgeous coin, btw.
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