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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:What does it mean if a TPG sends back a coin with a "No Decision"? And what should I do next with it. It means there is something about the coins condition or authenticity that they are not willing to stake their reputation on or apply their guarantee to. They will not tell you what it is either. Your fees should have been refunded (except shipping). |
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Can you post a picture of the coin?
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It means they didn't have the guts to come down on one side or the other.  I would consider No Decision to be a good thing - TPG's are Details-grading coins at the slightest hint of impropriety these days, and for a Details grade to be refused indicates that they don't really believe the coin is "off." Resubmit, if you're that interested in getting it slabbed. Perhaps to another TPG. |
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Here are a couple pictures of that coin. Let me know what ya'll think.   ctures of that coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
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i imagine they may not have enough experience with that particular issue to make a determination, NGC is far better with foriegn coins than pcgs. I would try them.
-XoG
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I've sent it to PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. I guess I have to go with the smaller TPG's. Which one is best with international coins? |
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Valued Member
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Ummm... dont waste your money... If those 3 body bagged it, you will almost NEVER get your money out of having it graded by a fly by night operation. Just put it in a case or sell it outright. Having it put into a holder labeled something it isn't only hurts the collectors of that series of coin.
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Quote:I've sent it to PCGS, NGC, and ANACS. I guess I have to go with the smaller TPG's. No. With the exception of ICG, which frankly is the best of the 4 with World coins in my opinion, there are no other reputable third-party graders. Hadn't realized this was a non-US coin. A different situation applies here. World collectors are less-enamored with slabs than US collectors; a slab is a lesser guarantee of sellability. There is such a huge variety of differing issues that (as you've discovered) it's very difficult to find a firm whose comfort zone extends to other than Eurocentric coinage. Keep the PCGS opinion should it come to resale; those in the know will realize that a No Decision from PCGS is tantamount to an endorsement. |
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Thank you for the help, will keep everybody posted if it gets slabbed or not in the next few weeks.
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It means they didn't have the guts to come down on one side or the other. Heh, heh....I do appreciate your reference to anatomy Dave, and although it may not have been my choice of physical attributes to reference, I also admire your lack of inhibition toward political correctness.  I recognize the coin Matt. Paul DeFelice at ANACS has been asked about the capability of grading Thai coins of this particular vintage, and the answer was positive, although I do agree with Dave, ICG is the leader in foreign stuff. One thing that has me a bit worried though, is the fact that I 'have' seen that particular variety in PCGS slabs before. I do not know how old the slabs were...possibly the attributor no longer is with PCGS ? |
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Matt, the color on my monitor keeps changing and flashing, what is your synopsis of the metal composition of the coin? Gold, silver, copper or tin? What is the diameter? Is the edge reeded, plain, or inscribed? If you feel it is gold and the edge is plain, there may be a very good reason why the TPG failed to make the call, it may be a contemporary counterfeit (which is not as bad as it sounds). Many earlier Thai coins were reproduced as religious tokens, and were struck in gold of the same consistency as the original, although the weight content may differ. It may also be a rare presentation piece struck as Royal gifts to VIPs. |
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New Member
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It is gold and the edges have been worn down like it might have been in a bezel.
Sent it into ICG yesterday on a 1-day tier so I should find out pretty soon.
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I think that it is going to grade with them, and I think it will be a good grade as well. The areas on the coin (that are normally worn) show good detail. I just hope that your speculation about it being an ex-jewelry piece is not accurate. I've got my fingers crossed.  |
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 So I received the email from ICG and the grade came out as a "88". Didnt know what that meant at first but called and found out the news that they are calling it "questionable authenticity" as well. |
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Hmmm, if you are sure that it is gold, then I would bet that it is indeed an amulet piece and worth its weight in gold as the Thai are not famous for diluting gold. Find a jeweler. I was wondering, do you find these coins or do they find you? (I'm just joking around with you buddy). https://goccf.com/t/68782 |
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