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Mercury 1942/41

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 Posted 08/22/2010  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list

Patrick,

The first picture doesn't match the second picture, there's contact marks that on the first picture and clearly the second picture don't have those marks.
Sorry, I don't see the over date on the second picture, more of a worn die for the date (year).

As for the grade, I would say is a solid MS 63 in my opinion.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list
i am pretty sure that second picture is not a 42/1
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 Posted 08/22/2010  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frenus to your friends list
If you say that the second image is not 42/41, you say : there are one possibility for the first to be 42/41.It's the same money mister.I am not a liar.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frenus to your friends list
Good morning,this is normal that differences appear on the first and two image.I am not a professional photographer.To obtain a good photo I am obliged to make several photos.For exemple: when I have the good image for hair, I have no more the date and the opposit.Thas according the lightings we can think that it not the send monay.Sorry.I send you one photo where you will can see all that I say: 42/41// shock on cheek and the hair without wears and onlyone money.Thank you very much.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list
Welcome! to CCF,

I dont know that much about merc dimes but I do speak a little french, so if you do have some translation issues I may be able to assist in that. Hope you find what you are looking for!
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 Posted 08/22/2010  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list
But I do agree that this coin is in solid MS60-63 range, but cant say on the overdate Ill defer to someone else on that. I think people are weary of the contact marks arround the date at the first picture and them being almost absent on the second.

Sorry for the Double Post
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 Posted 08/22/2010  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frenus to your friends list
Bonsoir Americanamafia.Ma passion pour votre monnaie et mon admiration pour votre culture va bien au-delà d' une simple discussion sur une pièce de 10 centimes, et peu importe sa valeur.Ce qui ne m' empèche pas d' être fière de mes origines.On peut aimer plusieurs choses dans la vie.Je vous remercie infiniment pour votre aide, cela me touche beaucoup et si besoin est, je ferai appel à vous.J' ai envoye une autre photo qui est plus convaincante, je pense.Merci beaucoup.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list

Quote:

If you say that the second image is not 42/41, you say : there are one possibility for the first to be 42/41.It's the same money mister.I am not a liar.


First off to the community

Second I never said the top picture was a 42/1 dime.

third I never said you were a liar.

Take a chill pill. you wanted to show us pictures of your MS 42/1 dime and I looked at them and said I did not think the second one was a 42/1 dime. The first picture you posted looks more like a 42/1 Denver than a 42/1 Philadelphia minted coin. and the reverse of the coin has no d mintmark

Here is a picture of a 42/1 dime Graded MS-63
Mercury-1942/41
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 Posted 08/22/2010  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list
Davis I agree with you. The first picture is a 2 over 1 but the large 2nd picture is not. I am 100% sure they are not the same coin. If you enlarge the 2nd picture it does not show the 1 or the ding marks as pictured in the first one. Maybe the wrong picture was uploaded. I'm sure this response will upset the original author. This is my opinion and by posting on a forum that's what you are looking to get.
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 Posted 08/22/2010  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Patrick,

If you do believe that your 42/41 is authentic than you would want to submit it to PCGS or NGC for a proper grade and certification, as one in MS grade are in thousands of dollars, doing so would guaranteed it is real and for better sell down the road, but I agree with other here that the chance is nil.
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 Posted 08/23/2010  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The two pictures are of the same coin. It is hard to see but there is the same nick in the field above and right of the 9 in both pictures.

Unfortunately the grade don't matter, it is not real.

If you look at the picture of the real one that daviscfad posted you will notice that the underneath 1 is slightly past the leftmost edge of the 2 and it has a prominent upper serif. The original post coins has the left edge of the 2 noticeably left of the left edge of the 1 and there is no upper serif.
Edited by Conder101
08/23/2010 09:15 am
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 Posted 08/23/2010  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
It appears to me that the first coin posted is a 1942 over 1 Denver mint Mercury dime. The Philadelphia mint has a much more pronounced offset 1 versus 2 than the Denver overdate of the same year, according to this guide:

http://grading-guide.com/variety_mercury.html


Of course that doesn't account for the lack of D mint mark on the reverse.

Or that I don't see much of the same overdate in the second picture...
Edited by Moe145
08/23/2010 11:21 am
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 Posted 08/23/2010  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcreek1968 to your friends list
First picture carries some of the characteristics of the 42/41, but the date appears way to flat for me. Thus it loses some of the definition of an original 42/41. The 1 is much to flat behind the 2 which also appears way to flat. It looks like a possible counterfeit IMO. Are the chinese selling their stuff in France now too? AS for the second coin, a nice coin, but I'm going to say AU58. There appears to be wear on the uppermost horizontal band across the fasces along with some wear on the obverse above the ear. It does not appear to be overdate and definitely not the same coin as in the other picture of the date only obverse.
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 Posted 08/27/2010  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
The coin looks like a fake, or an altered date attempt to me. I may be wrong though.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
not the overdate, for a Philly coin.

period.
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