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"Who Cares" Well I care, not for the possible value in the coin. For me every coin has a story to tell. They all have a history and I want to know all I can about every coin I have, regardless of its "value". |
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OK....when I started collecting coins the main thing was to get the best collection you could as cheap as you could, but, minimal errors were of little concern. So why do you need a story about the coin minting process and any possible mistake made in the minting process, unless the coin is quite valuable. There's always a bottom line in any hobby as far as most people are concerned. I'm also concerned about history etc etc, but, there are so many coins.... Coin collecting to most I know is about the value and beauty of the coins. ...I still have a lot to learn about VAMs but I'm not impressed yet.
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As with anything, It really depends on if your interested in the process or just grabbing potatoes off the shelf for dinner tonight...
some just want the potatoe, and some know there are many types used in certain dishes are much better than the old maid potatoe, So it is with vams, each of us like the Morgan itself for itself but have come to understand there were many errors made in its minting,,and reguardless wether its in MS or Good condition it can be worth a lot more...it is by studing them we4 learn if they are more valuable or not, and as we are looking at them in the first place as collectors, WHY NOT know and understand the difference...It does make a difference in what your stew tastes like....
Gene
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Gene...I've been looking at Morgans for 40+ years and I've allways been totally interested, but looking at some of the VAMs I think to myself that the error is just way to minimal for anyone to care about, and just a way for powers whomever they may be to cash in on dupes!...The potatos off the shelf anology isn't where I'm coming from....
Erik
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I can definitely agree where your coming from, Yet there are many who collect errors from every type of coin that has been produced..and they have quite a following..The thing is there are collectors who do collect errors and those who don't. I don't think its an all or nothing game, more like to each his own. On the other hand if you had a coin your didn't care about, you would not be so happy to find out it was an error( VAM) that was worth quite a bit...So for instance, although you may not want to collect vams, it would still be wise to understand them to a point, to protect the coins that you do have...many of the 1878 14.X series are in conditions of XF and lower...and worth quite a premium...And in the end, its really to each to his own..thats what collecting is all about...I don't deal coins, and don't have a ton of Morgans, I got interested because I found I did have some nice vams I other wise have considered unimportant or worth common money..Also it has been a good learning experience as I have had the time to learn about them even though I will not try to collect a VAM series, I do include them into the very small collection I have... |
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I'm inerested in errors, look at my post from yesterday on "who Cares" the 1922D I have has a real error. and I'm sorry I can't show you this coin but I need someone to show me how to post photos, I'm computer illiterate. ...I am now looking for VAMs for 2 days so far and I haven't yet brought out my bank stash. And it's because of this website and the great people involved and in fact has really brought my demon back for collecting. But, I really think that some VAMs are at best, wishful thinking.....Cheers to you, and thanks for your reply....I'm ready for more!
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Glad to have you aboard Eric, To post a photo, once you take it, it must be under 100K, usually when you take a photo it is larger than that, so you must use a image program to resize it, I use a free one called Irfanview, google it up if you don't have one, its not to hard to use..Resize it to under 100k, then : By the way when I take a photo I save it in a folder I make, your photo program will let you find it..after resizing it, as you "REPLY TO TOPIC" at the bottom under the window your typing in is a green button "ADD IMAGE" just click on it and browse for your folder and click on your image it will load here, if it doesn't its because its to large. after I resize a photo I go to the folder my image is in, I place the arrow over it and it will tell you what size the photo is. if its over 100K I resize it again untill its under 100K..Its all good then, give it a try. look forward to seeing them pics!!  |
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aladinslamp....My wife tried for 6 hours yesterday to put up some photos. Didn't work, the site says they are too big and I am absolutely no help with using computers. So, we're going to try to find a kid to help us. The 1922D I tried to show has a crack from the are and over the hair cap under the Y and then down a ways. Also it runs up the left side of the Y leg and through the middle of it, to the rim. This is not a scratch, it is raised......I'm sorry to barge in on the original intent and subject of this thread but I wanted to reply to your last post here.....Sorry and Thanks...
Cheers to all, Thanks!
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I just checked my post and when I write the letter "R" it comes out on my post as "are"?
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On your computer, put your pictures in "My Pictures"..... Make several copies of your picture...... Open with "Paint"..... Click on "Image"...... Click on "Stretch/Skew"...... Adjust the 'Horizontal' and 'Vertical' percentages down equally. Click on "File"......Click on "Save"....... Go back to "My Pictures".....hover the mouse pointer over the picture to ensure that the size is not more than 90kb. (Get as close to 90kb as possible without going over). (This may take several attempts with different percentages using a trial and error type of attack) to get down to less than 90kb, so that is why you need to make several copies of your photos. (Start with a new original copy on each attempt). One last thing......Raised marks on coins 'do not' necessarily indicate 'anything' die related.....the metal on the coin is 'displaced' when deeply scratched or cut..... it is not 'compressed', nor does it 'vanish'.... When you drop a stone into water, the water splashes (raises) in displacement, so it is with metal displacement. Your description of the crack actually sounds like a crack, I have seen others lately that did not. For example, are these raised lines...... die cracks?   |
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The photo you show me here is different, my coin looks more like ice cracking so to speak and is random, not perfect....
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Yes, I know....I do believe that yours is indeed a die crack.....I just wanted to make a point about the 'raised' thing indicating anything at all.....The effects on the coin shown above are raised lines caused by a deep scratch. I can make these 'raised' marks on a coin in a very few seconds. The point of 'raised versus incuse' is totally meaningless when considering whether marks are PMD or die related. |
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Thanks! We will try to post this photo ASAP, as this coin is very interesting. I was at the MOON coin show (3 day event and largest in Minnesota twice yearly) this weekend and showed it to a few and they all said it appeared to be just before the die broke.....Zeewool,Did you mention Boonesfarm a few days back? takes me back to the early 70's....As I said before, my apologies to the originator of this thread....Erik
cheers,Erik
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Threads, especially the longer ones, get hijacked and off track more often than not, it is not your fault, all share in the responsibility of keeping things on track, but often things get more interesting when a detour is encountered.
The '70s 'eh ? Before my time, but I assure you that it is still made and enjoyed by the younger generation. Strawberry Hill is my personal favorite.....I don't really know how to relate it to coins, but I feel that the 'Farm' does go hand in hand with forum banter at times like this.
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I got a warm bottle of bonnies farm..If all I collected was the bottom f the barrel.its all good.. but there are many such VAMS that are not found in high grades...knowledge is the key... or when you trade/give/sell your low grade coins away...there could be a difference...not meaning all low grade coins are worth something..its about knowledge...
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