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 Posted 11/11/2010  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
look at the absolutely clean scratches behind the neck.
the coin is nearly 100 years old......
where was it? kept away from dirt? was it always stored perfectly.
NOW, I am not saying that this coin is not nice. All I am saying is that I personally think it is cleaned. A TPG might think it is ok.
DBM you are the expert. ( by the way, liked what you wrote in the other forum....)
too bad we can not respond...
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 Posted 11/11/2010  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
HHB I think you have confused me with someone else,I am not an expert, and rarely post on the other forum.
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 Posted 11/11/2010  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
DBM, if so, please accept my apologies...
nothing negative was meant...
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 Posted 11/12/2010  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
No need to apologize,it felt good to be an expert,if only for a few hours.
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 Posted 11/12/2010  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list
I'm definitely not an expert, but that does NOT look cleaned, and without knowing the details of the strike for that issue I can't say whether it would be an AU/MS grade. However, on first look my guess would be MS63ish. Again, I don't know anything about the strikes for this issue, where the wear points are, etc.


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look at the absolutely clean scratches behind the neck.
the coin is nearly 100 years old......
where was it? kept away from dirt? was it always stored perfectly.


Are you serious? You don't think a coin can be in that shape after 90 years without being cleaned? That's just wrong on principle.
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 Posted 11/12/2010  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list
Oh and values from coinsandcanada.com ... will look at Charlton tomorrow.

EF40: $3
AU50: $7
MS60: $20
MS63: $80
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 Posted 11/12/2010  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list
Charlton Values:

EF40:$7
AU50: $10
AU55: $15
MS60: $20
MS63(RD): $80
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 Posted 11/12/2010  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
good luck...
In shall not comment any more...
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 Posted 11/12/2010  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

No point looking into this too long:

http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-CANADIAN-CO...t_500wt_1156
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 Posted 11/12/2010  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Sometimes it's tricky to distinguish wear from strike.
To my eyes, the luster points to a MS coin.
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 Posted 11/12/2010  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
It's possible to have an MS coin with what look like jewels in the vertical band of the crown?

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 Posted 11/12/2010  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
Worn jewels, that is.
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 Posted 11/12/2010  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoCentsWorth to your friends list
Is it possible to have higher than ms-60 with a brown coin? I notice Charltons lists these coins as ms60 brown then higher at red-brown then red.
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 Posted 11/13/2010  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list
Sure. PCGS has Canadian coins graded 66 brown. I have seen ICCS coins graded 64 lustrous brown.
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 Posted 11/13/2010  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadanz to your friends list

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Is it possible to have higher than ms-60 with a brown coin? I notice Charltons lists these coins as ms60 brown then higher at red-brown then red.


As far as I'm concerned you could have an MS70BN. Color designations are just that... color designations. Not sure if the TPGs would agree with me though.

And dialog_gvf, that could very well be wear, in which case this would probably be a mid-high AU.
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