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 Posted 12/18/2010  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
max F15 in Canada
all the way to 40 with any(unpredictable-matters how many you give us to garade a year etc.... etc)
US TPG... even choice AU with some.....like NNG etc....
BUT,,, whatever you grade it, IT will be...
COIN in hand is always the deciding factor...
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 Posted 12/18/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada-EH to your friends list
Thanks guys, coin looks a lot more detailed in hand than it does through the scanner. I tried to better the scan image many times but cannot seem to bring out the details of the coin.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Idle question: What is the "Canadian" grading standard?

I'm familiar with (and use both) the "American" and "European" standards, which (in the real world) do not really differ. One may glean this from the introduction to any Krause encyclopedia.

Concerning the coin in question: The scans indicate no real luster remaining (scans measure luminosity, but express it in a different visual sense that photographs) - the cheek and adjoining fields have the same luminosity. However, it's easy to see that most of the reverse detail is intact.

I don't know this specific coin, but I've handled rather a few with variations of the Victoria Head, and the quality of their strikes is all over the map, to the extent that I rarely let it factor heavily into my grading opinion.

The upshot is, I don't see how this coin fails to make VF. That's why I asked the question above, seeking enlightenment.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
As a point of reference, here is a coin graded by ICCS. That grade tracks to my other Canadian sources.

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 Posted 12/19/2010  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
With the understanding that the scan does not adequately present the detail, I don't see the OP's coin exceeding the quality of the ICCS coin.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
the amount of wear on both coins is similar
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 Posted 12/19/2010  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
More or less. I do see a little more detail around the eye and reverse crown on the OP's coin.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada-EH to your friends list
Took these pictures with my camera but had to really crop to get under the 90k limit.

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 Posted 12/19/2010  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
I'll bet, in hand, this coin would grade EF-40,

A scan doesn't do it justice.

Canada-EH, can you show the lower part of the ribbon section, close up.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada-EH to your friends list
Thanks SHAFTa9a, here's a couple more.

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 Posted 12/19/2010  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Note that in the first large-scale photo of the obverse the ear and braid to the upper left of it appear to be worn flat.In the second obverse photo the rim of the ear is still well rounded as is the adjacent braid.It just goes to show why many people dislike internet grading,same coin,different photos and ?
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 Posted 12/19/2010  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Yes.. I agree with what you are saying.. DBM, I would like to have this coin in my hand, to really tell.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada-EH to your friends list
Based on the camera photos, what grades would you give it? The coin is definitely sharper than the scanner photos. With the camera they are better but I'm trying to figure out how to take a macro shot an inch away and not block the light.
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 Posted 12/19/2010  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
IMO...not possible...or, only with dismal results using very small LED lights
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 Posted 12/21/2010  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada-EH to your friends list
Do the new camera images I posted on this coin change the grading it had been given?
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