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Biggest Collection Of Square Coins?

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Canada
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 Posted 12/19/2012  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
i think I am in the 30 or 40ish count right now.

going to have to start a sub set now...

although to hit sel's total I might have to break out the bench grinder and shave down a few old fashion "roundies"
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Thailand
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 Posted 12/19/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Hey, triggersmob. nice coin which country?
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 Posted 12/19/2012  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list


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United States
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 Posted 12/19/2012  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkivtt to your friends list
Nice collection. I see you already have the Aruba and Netherlands Antilles 5-cent pieces. I used to live on the Antilles and still have a glass jar sitting around with a bunch of those square pieces.
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Australia
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 Posted 12/20/2012  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I am still looking for the Aruba 5 florin coin, and the
Sri Lanka 10 rupees IYSH (International Year for the Shelter of the Homeless) commemorative coin.
Both are larger copper nickel types.
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Israel
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 Posted 12/20/2012  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Angielczyk to your friends list
I have a few square coins but my favorite is this one from Hungary as I am an avid chess player

It is silver proof. Sorry about the quality of the picture



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Austria
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 Posted 12/20/2012  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list
in germany and austria, we call theese coins "Klippe"
juust the google results:
http://www.google.at/search?hl=de&q...HasgatuoDwDw
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Australia
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 Posted 12/20/2012  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The intention with my square coin collection was to keep the costs down, and have a bit of fun, so that is the reason why my collection is composed of modern machine made coins, that were made for circulation.
Because of their numismatic interest, I will eventually acquire a few kilppe coins, but they are rather expensive, and they will not necessarily be part of of my square coin collection, as they will require a more secure form of storage.
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Austria
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 Posted 12/20/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list
hi sel_69l - it was just an example to show a bit of this wide-spread area.
just to give you an overview and to enjoy the different mind of coins... ;)

oh yes, most of the german and european "Klippen" are expensive.
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United States
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 Posted 12/20/2012  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Missouriblue to your friends list
Look like squircles to me. Just kidding. Nice set. Only have a couple so I have a long ways to go. Where are most of them from?
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 Posted 12/21/2012  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
It looks to me that collecting square coins could be quite a demanding focus. If you looked to older issues from the Islamic world you could have quite a challenge ahead of you.


For example( I am not recommending the coin or the seller rather just using the listing to highlight how extensive the field could turn out to be):

http://www.ma-shops.com/almanumis/i...2678c6747e45


I recall Aussi once looked at producing square coins.....the trial strikes and patterns are rare and very expensive
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 Posted 12/21/2012  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list


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in germany and austria, we call theese coins "Klippe"


Is that wholly correct? I ask because I understood Klippe to be round coins in a square "planchet". They came about from a unique minting method the coins were made not with dies as we understand them today but with two Rollers set up like an old washing mangle. One roller would have the obverse engraved in it and the other the reverse). A strip of metal ( long rectangular) would be feed into the set up and squeezed/rolled through it then each coin would be cut free from the strip. As that technology developed more than one denomination was produced on the same strip and then at some stage people added decorative elements around the Coin design. I understand ( although really rare) that from time to time uncut strips with the rolled coins not cut out come to the market...of course they are very expensive. IMHO Klippe aren't true square coins as they coins were designed to end up round in the end(Generally).
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 Posted 12/21/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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They came about from a unique minting method the coins were made not with dies as we understand them today but with two Rollers set up like an old washing mangle. One roller would have the obverse engraved in it and the other the reverse


I've heard that Livonian coins from the 17th century were produced with a similar method despite being round. Is that true, and if so, could one have got clipped?
I'm asking because one of mine* has a slight misalignment that puts on the coin a piece of beaded border that appears to belong on another coin (similar to misaligned print on banknotes) - which suggests a coining method similar to the one described - and appears to have a clip almost exactly opposite that piece (unfortunately, the usual signs of a clip as opposed to damage would've been hard to see on such an old coin, and for that matter if the clipping happened during the process of cutting the coins out from the strip we might well have no way to tell anyway - but until I see evidence to the contrary I would personally assume it's clipped).

*) funnily, I bought it for Secret Santa, but later found out it's illegal to send and decided not to take the risk
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 Posted 12/21/2012  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
I don't know the coins you refer to ( hopefully some one else does) if they were very early 17th century then it is quite likely the technique was predominantly used in the 16th century. The coins Struck" by this roller method ( especially the larger crown sized pieces) are quite often "bent" as they pick up some curvature from going through the Rollers. I have a Leypold the Hog-mouth double thaler and the "bending" is very obvious ( I am not sure how obvious it would be on small diameter coins
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 Posted 12/21/2012  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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I don't know the coins you refer to ( hopefully some one else does) if they were very early 17th century then it is quite likely the technique was predominantly used in the 16th century. The coins Struck" by this roller method ( especially the larger crown sized pieces) are quite often "bent" as they pick up some curvature from going through the Rollers. I have a Leypold the Hog-mouth double thaler and the "bending" is very obvious ( I am not sure how obvious it would be on small diameter coins


They're middle 17th century (that particular one was 1654 IIRC... could've been 1652 or 1651, don't remember exactly) and relatively tiny (you know what a solidus is right? sorry I didn't mention it in the original post).
In fact, I'm not actually sure that's the reason; I just heard somewhere that they were minted that way.
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