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 Posted 09/06/2006  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
The things that interest me the most are:

1) The die polishing in the eagle's tail
2) The pitting below the L
3) The straight die polishing lines extending from the denticles thru the LUR in PLURIBUS - is that prominent line after the R raised?
4) The dot in the E - there are many examples of such odd dots in 1921 Morgans. It's theorized that they may be the result of hardness tests of the dies.

None of those have any mention in available descriptions of 1921-P VAM's. Taken singly, they may not be important enough to warrant designation as a new VAM. Together, they might.

One other thing, wrongalot. Do you have any other 1921-P Morgans? If so, can you compare the reeding between this one and another? Some 1921's had 157 reeds instead of the usual 189, and the space between reeds is noticeably wider when comparing the two side-by-side. That won't help us with attribution, but it'll be a point of significance if yours is an Infrequently Reeded type.
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 Posted 09/06/2006  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
OK, first off, which part is the reeding? (I know I am dumb), and second no I don't have another P only an S
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 Posted 09/06/2006  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
Yes the line after the R is raised.
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 Posted 09/06/2006  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
the ridges that go all the way around the outside of the coin is the reeding
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 Posted 09/06/2006  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
and here I thought that was called a rim...darn it wrong again...hehehe
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 Posted 09/06/2006  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list
Ok, I can't justify spending money on a magnification system just to look at the couple of 21Ps I own, anyone suggest the next best option?

You all have my interest sparked to look at all my morgans closely.
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 Posted 09/07/2006  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
I counted the reeds. and there are 189, boy was that hard to do...
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 Posted 09/07/2006  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
ok then its regular reed instead of Wide reeding (infrequent reeding) so that answers that question
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 Posted 09/07/2006  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list
wrongalot,
i enlarged your pic a bit,hope it helps somewhat.You counted all the reeds!


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 Posted 09/07/2006  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
I thought those were called "denticles"?
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 Posted 09/07/2006  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
Thank you TL. Yes, I counted them all. I got a toothpick and used it to go from one to the other, lost my place a dozen times, almost threw it out the window, but I got r done....
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 Posted 09/07/2006  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
dsking the denticles are around the rim which is if the coin is laying flat on the table the circumference of the coin is the rim, the denticles are the ridges around that part, if you stand a coin on its end (where its standing up) and looking at the narrow part of the coin, those ridges are reeds

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 Posted 09/07/2006  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You counted the reeds? I am awed.

The pics you've already taken prove that you have good enough magnification to catch all the details required, and your digipics ain't bad either. The next step, for me, is to invite a couple of acquaintances from other forums (people who know more about 1921's than I) in to read this thread, and maybe express an opinion.

Your next step, if you could, is to look for letter, star and date douubling - no need for pics, you can just write it down. We'll get to the bottom of this thing.
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 Posted 09/08/2006  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
SD, Thank you for your time and patience. I will endeavor to study the coin for doubling as you asked.
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 Posted 09/08/2006  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list
SD, ok, I look at the letters and I think I see some slight doubling on the words united states of america, and a couple of the stars on the reverse, did not see anything on the obverse. Also found 3 more lighter die cracks on the obverse.
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