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 Posted 01/19/2011  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I have a headache from it, 9 engravers, I sure took a bite of a tough ssubject, however thats how I like it. Anything easy is no fun. Back to homework.
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01/19/2011 07:05 am
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 Posted 01/22/2011  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
Good evening Gentlemen. As we say down here in LA., How ya'll are?
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01/22/2011 6:20 pm
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 Posted 01/22/2011  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
We too say that from where we ever are...and how are your studies going? there is much to research...just take it one subject at a time so you can grasp the individual points that make up the whole...
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 Posted 01/23/2011  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I've had to pull off studying for about 5 days due to blown out sewer line, doing repairs myself. Anyway, I,m still on Mr. Morgan, as I'm new to this it is taking me a little while to find the right sites for info. Oh just had an idea, The Library of Congress. I read the letter from Mr. Linderman to the London Mint & the reply, the line the got me was "It has of course occurred to me that you may think Mr. Morgan too good for the place you have to offer, but I have a strong opinion that he ought not to be lost to you on that account, & that you will do well to secure his services.' I'm learning,& your right "take my time one subject at a time. I l that there learned in my research that there are two mints I did not know about, Charlotte & Dahlonega.

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01/23/2011 10:25 am
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 Posted 01/25/2011  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I purchased a 1887-o at a local pawn shop awhile back & noticed it had an x across the obverse of the coin, recently I saw another New Orleans with a x on the cheek on ebay, could this have been some kind of underground code or doe's anyone know or is my imagination running wild? Thanks, Lee.
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01/25/2011 07:28 am
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 Posted 02/01/2011  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
Ok, I think I have one worth buying, tell me what ya'll think? Looking it up while ya'll reply. http://cgi.ebay.com/1884-O-MORGAN-P...em4aa7f7d059 Well I looked it up & I'm 90% sure, just cant see a dbl. arrow, so hope I just made a good deal. Comments please.
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02/01/2011 11:44 am
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 Posted 02/14/2011  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
Am I correct in assuming that for the 1921-P Morgan the Obverse has nothing to do with what makes it the VAM that it is? I bought a 1921-O that says on the slab 1921 VAM41. I'm kind of confused on this one however. It listed as a 41B, then in the description of it they say " 41B IV 24-D1a ( Tripled left stars, Pitted Lower Reverse, Die File Lines Lower Reverse) (189) I-3-R6. Reverse D1a- Additional raised dots from rusted die around One with heavy File Lines all over Lower Reverse. They also use #2-4A. I can't match it up to any of the 1921-P's on vamworld or on SuperDaves 1921 VAM 41B page. I am still trying to figure out how to post pictures, I can e-mail them however if anyone would like to help me. I assume I just don't know enough yet. Thank You all, Lee.
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02/14/2011 2:05 pm
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 Posted 02/14/2011  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozland to your friends list
Purchasing this book and reading it will go a long way to helping you understand vamming.

The Comprehensive Catalog and Encyclopedia of Morgan & Peace dollars by Leroy C. Van Allen and A. George Mallis. Affectionately known as "the big VAM book" by collectors, this is currently in its fourth edition. First published in 1971, it was updated and reprinted in 1998. It contains a detailed listing of all known (at the time) die varieties listed date-by-date and is loaded with pictures. At more than 500 pages, it contains a wealth of mainstream information dealing with the history of Morgan dollars, grading, Counterfeit Detection, photography instruction and more. Leroy Van Allen has also put out yearly supplements and detailed attribution guides since this work was published.
Think of this as the A.B.C. primer.

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 Posted 02/14/2011  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
there is one for sale on ebay, saw it while browesing the Morgan dollars
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 Posted 02/14/2011  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list
Just got a used one today from Alibris...36.00.....they have some more but I don't remember the prices.
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 Posted 02/14/2011  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
thats a fair price...Lots of good reading on the whole process that resulted in what we know as VAMS....
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 Posted 02/15/2011  05:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I just got the book Saturday & after reading what ya'll said, it's a DUH, Heres My Sign. Man, do I feel stupid, I'havent gotten to far in it as of yet. I looked it up & it's a little confusing but I'll look at them later today. I'm starting to get it. Thanks for the help all.
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 Posted 02/15/2011  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I just received my Red Book that should help me a lot along with the VAM Book.
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02/15/2011 4:01 pm
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 Posted 02/16/2011  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
I owned 1 Red Book........40 years ago....and I could buy back then, a "BLUE BOOK"....the prices the dealers would buy your coins for......
It was an obvious difference in pricing...OR VALUE of any coins worth....the difference is something you must consider...my meaning is simple...the price you pay now with the " RedBook" is not the value you can get back if you decide to sell tomorrow........One needs to know where to buy whole sale pricing...my meaning is near dealer price's
If it has information inside then its ok...as a resource....then thats ok....but I will not bet my bottom dollar on it....Today we have the GREY SHEET....that is more realistic of what the COMMODITY (the coin) is worth....as an investment....your just getting started, so I don't want you to be sucked into things....be a smart shopper.......All Morgan's are vams so just don't buy it because it say's " VAM" learn to be a smart shopper too...
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 Posted 02/17/2011  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rlcbj59 to your friends list
I'll look into the Grey Sheet, I have the 2011 Blue Book also & there is quite a difference in the price as you say.I'll gain more knowledge & keep reading the threads. Thanks for all the help Aladin, OZ, Dave, & to EVERYONE else who has been more than willing to share your Wisdom, Experience, Knowledge as well as what reference books & material to purchase. Thanks for making what I perceived as being a hobby, just collecting a Morgan from every year,into a real Hobby.
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02/17/2011 2:37 pm
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