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Hobby Vs Investment

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 Posted 12/03/2017  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Lol I didn't even notice the dates on the previous posts
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 Posted 12/03/2017  02:54 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
It is dormant no longer!


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Plus my wife is okay with it :) she said, "you're collecting money? I can live with that!" hahaha


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 Posted 12/03/2017  03:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
For myself, I enjoy making a few dollars on a coin sale. (Maybe because it is such a rare event.)
And I don't usually buy with the idea of selling, but if a better example comes along, selling becomes a part of my upgrade process.
Also, it is unusual to buy a collection without encountering duplicates.
More important than the small profit is the affirmation that I know what I'm doing.
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 Posted 12/03/2017  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list
I have never really looked at any hobby as an investment until recently. When I became disabled in 2010 I became tired and depressed at sitting around doing nothing. After four years of it it became clear I needed to do something. I've loved to fish since child hood but packing all the gear is no longer an option so I got into flying quadcopters. That was fun for a minute, next thing I knew was the cost of replacing the motors, props, upgrading camera was getting out of control. This turned out yo be way more than my new fixed income could handle. Next was carving walking sticks and canes, very relaxing and not too much strain on the beat up body. That was until I went to purchase carving knives. A whopping $750 for a set of 6 of the essential knives. Needless to say, that didn't last long. I needed something that I can enjoy and maybe start out slow, something that kept its value just in case I grew tired of it. But what?
Well, in Febuary f this year I inherited my grandfathers coin collection that my mother has held onto since my grandfather passed in 1979. My mother passed in Febuary and the coins became mine. After going through this collection I became hooked and realized that this is a hobby that, almost every dollar that I put into it stays with it! I don't have to keep replacing motors every other month like the quad, that was a money pit. This however, pretty much keeps what ever you put into I it. You can spend as little as you want or as much as you can afford. The quads I paid a couple of hundred dollars for will only bring about $25 if I'm lucky. My coin collection to me is priceless as it not only brings me joy, it also hold its value for the most part. It is also something that I share with my grandchildren. Which will probably be theirs someday. Unless I make a foolish purchase, I'm not throwing my money away. I feel that it is one of the only hobbies that retains it's value

I guess I should of added that I don't collect coins to profit on. I don't plan (at least right now) on selling any of the coins that I have purchased or inherited! However, I do see coin collecting as a hobby first and foremost, and as an investment as a bonus of the hobby, not as for a future profit.
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 Posted 12/03/2017  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guybrush to your friends list
I view coin collecting both as hobby and investment.

I am really enjoying this so it's definitely my favorite hobby.

On the other hand, I also view coin collecting as an investment -- not exactly as something that I believe would rise in value, but as things that will retain its value so even though I spend a lot of money on this I won't lose money (as long as all are good buys).
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 Posted 12/03/2017  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
GR58 has said it right; you had better believe him!

I have made a tremendous 'profit' from studying and collecting coins.

And I haven't sold a single coin in 40 years !
Yes, they have had an enormous increase in value over four decades, but that is not where the profit is.

For me, the profit is a lifetime abiding interest in the study of the whole of numismatics, which covers from invention of coinage 26 centuries ago.
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 Posted 12/03/2017  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list


We, my good people, are the custodians of the history of civilizations. That is the true treasure of our hobby.










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 Posted 12/03/2017  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list

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(Maybe because it is such a rare event.)


Exactly!


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GR58 has said it right; you had better believe him!

I have made a tremendous 'profit' from studying and collecting coins.

And I haven't sold a single coin in 40 years !
Yes, they have had an enormous increase in value over four decades, but that is not where the profit is.

For me, the profit is a lifetime abiding interest in the study of the whole of numismatics, which covers from invention of coinage 26 centuries ago.


Yes, if you or anyone is a career professional numismatist and have devoted your entire life to the subject and making a living from it, you (in my opinion) are the exception not the rule.


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are the custodians of the history of civilizations.


Yes, with a small caveat "temporary" custodians.


I haven't checked. There's probably one already out here somewhere. I should start a thread: What are your basic financial/investment strategies? I bet coins would be at the bottom of that list!
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 Posted 12/03/2017  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDarryl to your friends list
I look at collectibles, such as coins, medals, and tokens as commodities. This is a direct quote from Warren Buffet:


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"The problem with commodities is that you are betting on what someone else would pay for them in six months. The commodity itself isn't going to do anything for you.it is an entirely different game to buy a lump of something and hope that somebody else pays you more for that lump two years from now than it is to buy something that you expect to produce income for you over time."


I totally agree with Warren Buffet.

The coins, medals, and tokens in my collection are a direct result of hobby enjoyment. If I sell an item in my collection and make a profit, that is great (I succeeded in finding someone willing to pay more than what I did).

So the million dollar question is: "How do you produce an income stream from your collection without selling anything from your collection?"

Ask me in a few months, I'm in the process of executing a business plan drafted specifically to do this.


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 Posted 12/04/2017  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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At least it has been a productive resurrection.
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 Posted 12/05/2017  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Wow I've heard many compelling arguments on this subject and I must say they all have valid points. Now I will give mine. As far as I concerned coin collecting is a hobby for me although I do purchase the best coins that I can afford. Hopefully when we spend money on coins we do hope that they appreciate in value even though we are trying to complete an album or set. I love the hobby for its history and stories behind the coins (I collect mainly U.S. Commemoratives). I learned something a long time ago any collectible is only worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. There will come a time when either you sell your collection or pass it on to family or donate the collection but until that time comes I'm truly going to enjoy mine.
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 Posted 12/05/2017  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list

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Wow I've heard many compelling arguments on this subject and I must say they all have valid points. Now I will give mine. As far as I concerned coin collecting is a hobby for me although I do purchase the best coins that I can afford. Hopefully when we spend money on coins we do hope that they appreciate in value even though we are trying to complete an album or set. I love the hobby for its history and stories behind the coins (I collect mainly U.S. Commemoratives). I learned something a long time ago any collectible is only worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. There will come a time when either you sell your collection or pass it on to family or donate the collection but until that time comes I'm truly going to enjoy mine.


Ditto!
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 Posted 12/05/2017  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list

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So the million dollar question is: "How do you produce an income stream from your collection without selling anything from your collection?"

Ask me in a few months, I'm in the process of executing a business plan drafted specifically to do this.


I'm really interested in hearing more about this.
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 Posted 12/05/2017  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list
Price is related to the mintage and the demand - unless it comes to them gold US Mint anniversary coins they and dealers are still trying to sell -
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 Posted 12/05/2017  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list

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So the million dollar question is: "How do you produce an income stream from your collection without selling anything from your collection?"

Ask me in a few months, I'm in the process of executing a business plan drafted specifically to do this.



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I'm really interested in hearing more about this.


You and me both chesterb.
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