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Has Anyone Had Any Luck Removing Finger Prints

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 Posted 09/12/2006  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
I can't remember the chemical make-up but, how about the fingerprinting dust used in Law Enforcement? I know someone that I will ask this of...hmmmm It would have to be a new print though and I don't know if it would only make an impression or remove the print entirely.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list
As Susan said,"As far as I know, the only time that acetone will work on the finger oils is when the print is fresh." This is what I have found to be true, and even then it sometimes becomes necessary to very lightly brush the surface of the coin with a Cammel hair brush, to work the acetone into the oil of the print.
I would not use Jeweluster if I were you.
After the oils have damaged the surface, it's too late to think of removing any trace of the print. Generally speaking.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have seen coins sent to NCS have finger prints when they were sent in and they came back print free and I was just wondering if anyone knows how they do it ir if anyone has had any luck with anything at all to remove these things. I even have a PCGS coin that a buddy of mine sent into for me that had no finger prints on the coin but now since its in the slab one appeared as if PCGS fondled it before slabbing it, I would hope they use gloves while grading these things but I have no idea how the dadburn finger print got on the coin
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Would the Coin Conservation share their knowledge?
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grouse12 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by dsking

I can't remember the chemical make-up but, how about the fingerprinting dust used in Law Enforcement? I know someone that I will ask this of...hmmmm It would have to be a new print though and I don't know if it would only make an impression or remove the print entirely.

Fingerprint dust is horrible stuff that is almost impossible to remove. I know this because my home was broken into a few years back and we disturbed the burglars so they dropped a bag full of booty below a window. In the bag was my vcr and it still has traces of dust to this day.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list
I think NCS gets away with cleaning coins whereas if we tried it using the same techniques, it'd come back to us in a bodybag. I'm pretty sure NCS actually removes some of the coin's metal when they "conserve" a coin (they would have to in order to remove an old fingerprint), but they do it well enough that it passes as an almost new coin.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by grouse12

quote:
Originally posted by dsking

I can't remember the chemical make-up but, how about the fingerprinting dust used in Law Enforcement? I know someone that I will ask this of...hmmmm It would have to be a new print though and I don't know if it would only make an impression or remove the print entirely.

Fingerprint dust is horrible stuff that is almost impossible to remove. I know this because my home was broken into a few years back and we disturbed the burglars so they dropped a bag full of booty below a window. In the bag was my vcr and it still has traces of dust to this day.

OK - strike that from the idea bag!
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 Posted 09/12/2006  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list
Bryan,
I would suggest you try a common degreaser.Such as Purple Power or Castrol super Clean,either can be purchased at a local Wal-mart. It shouldn't have any effect on the metal of the coin but will remove the oil of a finger print. I would try it on a non valuable silver coin first just to be safe.I would try a Q tip and a small amount of cleaner.
If the print has been on the coin for a long time its possible the salt from the skin would do permanent damage.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Berry to your friends list
Hi Bryan1315, have you tried WD-40? I would practice on some cull or something first, but there is a possibility that it could do the job. Either way hope you find a solution and pass it on to your forum mates, good luck.

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 Posted 09/12/2006  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
In my opinion, if this is a valuable coin, I would just leave it alone. Soak it in acetone to prevent any further toning of the print and be done with it. If it's not very valuable and you don't mind reducing the value, then you may want to experiment with these other methods.

The other option is to send it to NCS. I know that they are not going to share their secrets about how they remove fingerprints, but they could get it off for you.

Also, NONE of the TPGs' graders use gloves. I was surprised to find that out but it is definitely true.
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 Posted 09/12/2006  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
"...so I figured I would ask here where everyone seems to to have their brain in their head instead of where they sit to see if I can get a straight answer."

That was a nice compliment and I think we all missed it! Thanks!
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 Posted 09/13/2006  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
This is not a joke and not a recommendation

1) Acetone

if that does not work decide two

2) e*Z*est or juweluwtre ( will take some metal away )

if not satisfied try annealing

3) open flame bunsenburner on natural gas
do not heat beyond the stage very dark red

It will be obvious that you need to experiment and need some luck
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 Posted 09/13/2006  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
you think NCS will be able to help this UGLY thing?

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 Posted 09/13/2006  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list
I don't suppose that they can make it any worse, so there can't be harm in sending it in to them.
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 Posted 09/13/2006  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
the coin I posted that is almost Black is already in a NGC holder and graded MS-64 its a VAM-81 which is in my B1 Reverse Registry set
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