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Ralph
If you load the pics to the forum gallery it will take them at the bigger size and then you can post a link to the pics here,
If you have not signed up for your gallery yet contact Bobby and he will get you set up .
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Metalman - yep, I'm signed up for the gallery - just don't have any outstanding looking coins to post there yet. And this particular coin, even in MS-69, trends for only forty bucks ( CoinWorld). So, it's not that important that I get a grading opinion on it. When I ask for grading opinions, it's to try to list the grade as close as possible on my inventory sheets, and you folks here on the forum are pretty knowledgable, so I trust y'all's judgement. |
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Ralph: Does your coin have the "W" (West Point) Mint Mark. From what you're saying, the answer would be "No". West Point also mints the "Uncirculated" ASE's without the "W". I do believe the $40 is for the Proof (per Bryan) but, I don't have my Coin World/Coin Values handy right now as I'm sure he has already checked, We're all glad that you trust our opinions and judgements as we all have them and are willing to share anytime but...it would be helpful to you to purchase the "Photograde" or ANA Grading book. There are pictures and descriptions on just about everything (US that is) and either would go a long way to helping you. Please keep asking though as sometimes even the seemingly most insignificant coin, or lower value I should say, is a great challenge for even the most learned! |
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No - there is no mint mark on the coin. Coin World Coin Values lists it at 19-MS65, 25-MS66, 30-MS67, 35-MS68, 40-MS69. The proof coins start at 70 for PF65. As for books - I have the ANA Grading Standards - 6th edition, but nowhere in the entire volume do I find anything on the American Silver Eagle. Frankly I was just curious because I've never received an uncirculated ASE in the original mint packaging, and I can't see any marks on it, so, as I said, I was just curious. |
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Hi Ralph
The coins in the gallery do not have to be High dollar coins,, Its a great format for the coins that you want grading opinions on since they can be downloaded pretty large.
Rick
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Okay - I think I figured it out. When I scan something, if I click on the negative zoom icon before I save it, it reduces the size of the image enough to post here. Too cool - I'm learning all kinds of stuff. I reckon that old thing about never being too old to learn holds true. This is the coin, and there IS a small nick or some type of mark on the obverse about 10:00 o'clock, so it's not flawless after all. Image: ASE /a .jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">  1998 ASE.jpg 96.23 KB Image: ASE /a - Reverse.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> 1998 ASE - Reverse.jpg 99.01 KB |
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Frankly I was just curious because I've never received an uncirculated ASE in the original mint packaging, and I can't see any marks on it, so, as I said, I was just curious.
The uncirculated Eagles dont really have "original mint packaging" as they are packaged in rolls and sold in large boxes. It almost sounds like someone took a proof out of its case and replaced it with an uncirculated example. BTW, congratulations Ralph on figuring out your scanner- your pics are looking great! I would say that Eagle would be MS68 due to a couple small scattered marks. |
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Hi Ralph
I agree great scans !!!
But I think these coins degrade very rapidly even the small hit at 10 0clock and the one on Liberties bonnet and a couple of very minor scuff on the reverse will keep the coin out of the Gem grades,, MS-66 is my Opinion.
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Ralph: biokemist is correct. I didn't think about that...I'm glad that someone is on the ball here. You said that you purchased it as a "Proof"...hmmmmmmmm Since there isn't a "W" than I think you got swindled. I do, however, agree with the MS66-68 range. Your scans are much better than mine ever were - congrats!
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09/14/2006 12:06 pm
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Swindled? Did you not read my post stating that the seller refunded all but ten dollars (even refunded the shipping) to my paypal account? Do you really think a flat 10 bucks for this coin was a swindle? I thought it was a pretty good deal at the time - now you've got me wondering.
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I think if anyone got swindled, it was the seller. Someone else might have taken advantage of his lack of knowledge dealing with coins. He was a good guy in the fact that you were issued a partial refund to correct the problem. If the seller was trying to fool you, I dont think a partial refund would have been given to you. You made out pretty good to get an ASE for $10  Edited by biokemist6
09/14/2006 2:09 pm
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Swindled? Did you not read my post stating that the seller refunded all but ten dollars (even refunded the shipping) to my paypal account? Do you really think a flat 10 bucks for this coin was a swindle? I thought it was a pretty good deal at the time - now you've got me wondering.
Oh pooh...I'm just not using the right words lately! Swindled as in purchased believing it to be a Proof. I think that the seller was fair and did not know what he/she was selling because of lack of knowledge not intent. $10 is great and it's definitely a keeper. Sorry Ralph, I just didn't explain what I meant well at all. I need a nap!  |
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Okay, now I really am wondering if what I have is a real ASE, or a tribute. You say the uncirculated coins were not issued in special boxes, but, I'm curious why anyone would make a tribute coin to one with no more value than the 1998 ASE. I took some pics with my webcam to show the difference between the proof packaging and the packaging this coin came in. Not real good pictures, but I'm merely trying to show the difference in the packaging. Also took a scan of the certificate of Authenticity that came with the coin. Sooooooo... is it real, or is it memorex? Image: Blue Outer Box.jpg71.66 KB Image: Blue Velvet Box.jpg54.14 KB Image: How they sit in the velvet box.jpg79.03 KB Image: ASE /a .jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> COA for 1998 Unc ASE.jpg 53.23 KB |
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That's exactly how my proof ASE 2006 came from the Mint. |
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All of my proof ASEs have come in the same type of packaging - only difference being the boxes for the early proof ASEs is maroon, and the latter is blue. This uncirculated ASE came in the shorter, thicker box - different in every way, and, since the mint doesn't ship the unc ASEs in special packaging, I'm wondering if maybe I didn't get swindled after all. |
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