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Bedrock of the Community
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It's interesting for sure. Not sure what kind of value they would have. Some I would think would be worth at least a little something just by going off the themes. Anyone have a suggested source to check up on them?
medalcollector.org Or it's metal collectors of America Not sure but a really big web site about medals. Edited by just carl
01/24/2011 12:37 am
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Pillar of the Community
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There are catalogs for medals as well. And their values, just like of coins, depend on different factors such as composition, mintage figures, and, as always, market demand.
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I'll check on that. Thanks!
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Bedrock of the Community
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They are traditionally considered to be part of numismatics but with just a couple of exceptions that were used as money I do not consider them numismatic items. Quote:Quote:
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Numismatics: the collection and study of coins and of objects related to coins either by physical resemblance, method of manufacture or usage as money. Medals would be included as "numismatic" under both "physical resemblance" and "method of manufacture". So would manhole covers and metal buttons. And many other round metal items. I only consider an item to be numismatic if it was used as money or as a substitute for money. The problem with that definition is that it would also include stamps. But I consider stamps to be more of a numismatic item than medals. |
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So would manhole covers and metal buttons. And many other round metal items. And there are people in my coin club who collect those.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
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"manhole covers"?
" And there are people in my coin club who collect those."
The albums for those must be something else!
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Pillar of the Community
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I suspect Sap mostly referred to " ... metal buttons. And many other round metal items."
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svslav Couldn't find a smiley with tongue in cheek so this will have to do.  |
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No, I'm pretty sure some of the guys in the coin club have manhole covers, as well as buttons.  I know for certain that several of them have Furphy water cart tank ends in their collections, which are just as large as manhole covers. They're very popular pieces of "exonumia" down here, typically selling for over $500 each like this one on eBay. For storage, they just keep 'em on the floor. What thief is going to try to make off with one?  Speaking for myself, I'm more a coin purist, though I do have a few hundred medals and tokens. My collection mantra is, "if it doesn't fit in a 2x2, I don't really want it". Furphies are definitely out for me. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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OK, fine! You win!  Some people are attracted to big, and sometimes round, things. My parents are from a part of the world where huge battles of WW2 have happened. When I was growing up (into the late 1970's) and we visited relatives there I liked to hike in the fields, and often I'd come back with a big hunk of metal that was left from an exploded bomb, or a mine, or an artillery round. Sometimes a rusty piece of a hand-grenade. There was nothing numismatic about my collection, but it was interesting for me. I have no recollection of what happened to it, probably my dad secretly took it to a scrap-yard. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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But do you consider manhole covers to be numismatic items?  Edited by Conder101
01/26/2011 4:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've got a whole bunch of manhole covers in my collection. I keep them stored in convenient holes all around town here in the streets. They are just the perfect size holders.  Edited by TNG
01/26/2011 4:49 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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my grandfather had some man hole covers at his house, some dating back in the early 1900's and some without a date on them from various water companies. I wouldn't actually call my grandfather a collector as much as a hoarder. he did collect coins but he had absolutely no focus, as long as it was a coin he would keep it. I refer to those types of people a hoarder instead of a collector
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Pillar of the Community
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You guys are too funny! Did you see how much that water tank cart end thingy went for!?! Holy Cow! I'll stick with coins guys. Thanks for the laughs!
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But do you consider manhole covers to be numismatic items? Personally, no. Using my definition of "resemblance", a very large round metal thing (like a manhole cover or furphy) resembles a teeny tiny round metal thing (like a coin) only to the degree that they are both round and metal - that's not good enough for me. "Fitting in a 2x2" is my litmus test for "resembling a coin", since most coins fit in a 2x2. These very large metal things also do not, to my knowledge, share the same "method of manufacture", that is, by striking with dies - I believe they are cast. Yes, there are plenty of coins out there that are made by casting, just as there are plenty of coins out there that won;t fit in a 2x2. But these pass the numismatic test by being used as money. Not money + not close enough resemblance + not die-struck = not numismatic. But I'm perfectly happy for other folks to have a different "working definition" of numismatic than me, with a broader or narrower focus. There are some other guys in the same coin club who, personally, only collect coins, period - no medals, no tokens, no banknotes, nothing but coins. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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