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New Member
 United Kingdom
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i have pictures but they are too big to upload.. so i'll work on that for a while and see what I can do
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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heres one side so far 
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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this is the rose head side at least to me it looks like a rose head and in the to right near the light is where it starts MDG working on getting the other side up but site wont let me upload atm
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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 2nd side this is best I coul get the pics to look as for weight not the foggiest seems lighter than a 5p coin nothing I have will pick up its weight because its so light and I measured it to be about 18mm but its hard to tell as it is worn
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2605 Posts |
daunzey, I don't think we can give you a conclusive opinion on this coin, especially based on small pictures. If it is a real rose penny of Mary it would be a numismatic marvel! You should take it to a reputable dealer, not just some corner store. Am I correct to assume you're in UK? Schedule a trip to London and plan in a visit to Spink or Coincraft, the big boys. Years ago I had a British oddity and I emailed my question (with detailed photographs) to a couple of officers of British Numismatic Society (found them through an internet search engine). They were all nice enough to respond. So, that would be another option. Good luck with your quest, and I'd be very interested in its outcome, if you could keep us posted!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2605 Posts |
An afterthought: how have you come into possession of this coin? You have a better chance that it is genuine if it was in your (or somebody's) family for generations. If you just recently acquired it on ebay or a coin/trinket shop chances are it's a fake.
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Valued Member
Canada
268 Posts |
I'll check out my book on Scotish and Irish coins. I'm not familar with a long cross rose penny from Mary I.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2605 Posts |
Unfortunately, Meldercat, the site is incomplete. It doesn't have any Mary's pennies.
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Valued Member
Canada
268 Posts |
So the chase goes on ... I love a challenge!
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Moderator
 Australia
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The only coin, silver or copper, penny, halfpenny or farthing, during the reign of any monarch, with this design, was the halfpenny of Edward VI. Those have "EDG" not "MDG" and they are much smaller than this coin, which at 17-18mm diameter is in between a penny and halfgroat in size. I suspect this coin is supposed to be a penny.
On the reverse, the cross-and-12-pellets design went out of fashion on the penny during the reign of Henry VIII, though it continued on the smaller coins.
My issue of Coincraft has this note, under the listing for Queen Mary pennies: "...collectors should be aware that Victorian copies exist." So I suspect that's what you've got: a "fantasy" Queen Mary penny, made in the 1800s.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
Canada
85 Posts |
With good pictures, you will get a positive ID. Please post some quality photos of this coin ... obverse and reverse .... some closeups with details visible.
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Valued Member
Canada
268 Posts |
I'm with Sap. If the coin is real then I'm leaning towards Edward VI. I agree, a better picture would help.
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New Member
United Kingdom
30 Posts |
Sadly, this a modern fantasy piece. A large group of them appeared in the UK some few years ago, supposedly from a treasure hoard. They combine a design using the Edward VI rose type penny but with a 'Mary' (M D G) legend, in combination with a long cross CIVITAS LONDON reverse type, as seen on the medieval silver pennies of kings from Edward I to Henry VII. Chris Wren
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New Member
United Kingdom
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i have the exact coin but with edg instead of mdg
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