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To expand the point, any coins from a clashed die with no letter transfer can be any VAM. It is not confined just to VAM-1. To put it another way, if your coin is from clashed dies, and it has no letter transfer, it does not automatically make it a VAM-1. It is a clashed die version of whatever die classification it falls into. The only exceptions are the 86-P VAM-1C and 86-O VAM-11A. Clashed Morgan dollar dies are very common. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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this is true, but our point was that it didn't fall into one of the already listed vams it would still be a VAM 1 even if clashed yet no letter transferer...your point is correct if it was a VAM 9. than became clashed with no letter transfeer then it is still just a VAM 9.... |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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VAMs can be very confusing especially for new collectors and even though we are all saying the same thing its being said in different ways so I am going to bow out gracefully knowing the point will get across that I was trying to make in the first place, just in a different way so it will not confuse the OP more. After I say the VAM will be listed but the error ( Grease Filled Dies) will not |
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United States
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Oz, my apologies, the coin I was describing was not the coin Dave told me about. This one listed as a 1921 Morgan VAM-41 Top 100. Then it goes on to say: 41B IV 24-D1a, I'm not sure what the IV 24-D1a means. I looked at all the 1921-P VAMs on the vamworld website & couldn't match it up. Maybe I'm still to new at this. I know at the moment I have no Loupes bout I have a 30X on the way that should help.
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02/13/2011 01:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe the D1A is a clerical "referencing or classifying" the reverse die found with the 41A and b ....they used to be VAM 1a,,,but as time goes by revisions are made as more light is studied upon the coin...now the difference between the 41A and b is the polishing(FILE MARKS) lines on the lower reverse... |
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Valued Member
United States
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It means a type IV24 obverse die married to a type D1A reverse. Basic Vamming jargon.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks guys, I guess I better do some reading in the VAM book. |
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Valued Member
United States
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OK, I got ya'll off subject, sorry. I have my answer it's a 41B, Top 100. Yeah Thanks Guys.   Edited by rlcbj59
02/15/2011 3:56 pm
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Hello everyone I have been able to work on pictures of my coin and thought I would share them with you. OK I now realize it is not a VAM but it is very cool. What about the line going through the botton of the S in word States Thanks Alan  ]   Edited by acan451
02/15/2011 6:56 pm
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VNA's are VAMs Not Assigned Varieties. This could be due to several factors such as wear, lack of detail and in some cases varieties having die cracks not large enough to list. So what is the difference between VNA and vam-1 ? Quote:The VNA's are simply coins that were submitted as new discoveries. there minor differences were not worth being assigned a NEW VAM numbers over there old numbers which they have.. If a coin already has a VAM number, why would it not remain that number until given a new number..... why would it become VNA? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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excellent point Zee.........if the coin has attribution points that make it say VAM 9. and someone submits a coin with "additional" attribution points that are to small to list, it would still be a VAM 9.... In most cases.....those submitted have not made it to an assigned VAM listing ..Do to the fact there attributions are not " VAM worthy" by the rules.....such as the case with 1886 VNA with all the die cracks and the double clashes it has, they faded away from die deterieration that could no longer be confirmed..so it reverted to VAM 1...the cracks had no die BRAKES so it would not be listed.... VNA's usually fall into this category..... |
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New Member
United States
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Yes you have a VAM I have this coin only missine the "E" in the inscription In god w trust. It use to be a Vam-1z but they keep changing them |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Welcome to CCF Michael and specifically the VAM forum. |
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New Member
United States
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Yes I have a 1921 p missing the e in "in god w trust" also double die on united and not sure of rest have to look at it better. Any clue what VAM this would be |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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