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W.W. Wilbur SC7A 29mm Copper  Reverse  29mm Brass |
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I believe my attribution is right but feel free to correct me. I am using a tensor light with a warm light bulb which gives off a bit of yellow in color. The SC5 has some light cleaning evident but is a decent example and well struck reverse. Believe that is a Palmetto tree on the reverse albiet an ugly one.
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I believe my attribution is right but feel free to correct me. I am using a tensor light with a warm light bulb which gives off a bit of yellow in color. The SC5 has some light cleaning evident but is a decent example and well struck reverse. Believe that is a Palmetto tree on the reverse albiet an ugly one. Both your attributions look right to me. I opened up your pictures in Photoshop to get a closer look and it was red rather than yellow that I had trouble filtering out. I couldn't tell from the size of the images if your SC5 had any light cleaning. Both are terrific examples of the two varieties. I do believe you're right about Reverse A being a Palmetto tree too; albeit a caricature. My thought is that whoever the diesinker was probably had never seen a Palmetto tree in person. Given Charleston at the time, Wilbur probably had contracted diesinkers to produce his tokens from outside of South Carolina.
Thanks for posting. Do you have any other W.W. Wilbur varieties?
Here is one SC5A (copper vs. SC5 brass) from my cabinet that I obtained a few months back... Edited by CheetahCats
03/04/2011 12:00 am
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I do have a SC9 I would grade VG and will post a photo of it as soon as I find a better light source. Your images are much better than my quick snapshots.
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I do have a SC9 I would grade VG and will post a photo of it as soon as I find a better light source. Your images are much better than my quick snapshots. Look forward to seeing your SC9 :)
Here is a link to a recent post which describes the method I use to photograph my specimens. It is much less complicated than it may appear.
https://goccf.com/t/77885#662362
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- CheetahEdited by CheetahCats
03/04/2011 01:48 am
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As time permits, I will post other varieties of the W.W. Wilbur token from my cabinet.
Here are some additional W.W. Wilbur Tokens from my cabinet:
The specimen below is an SC-5, brass, in Choice VG condition:
The next specimen is an SC-7A, copper, EF Details. There is a die crack at obverse 6 o'clock:
The final specimen for today is an SC-9, in brass, in Choice VG Details.
After examining many W.W. Wilbur tokens (both in my cabinet, as well as general population) it seems that the SC-9 variety is the only specimen struck in COIN TURN rotation, while all of the other varieties are in MEDAL TURN.
Further research is warranted.
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- Cheetah
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I have been unable to find a better bulb for my tensor light here in town. I still intend to post some more pictures when I find a better lighting source.
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I have been unable to find a better bulb for my tensor light here in town. I still intend to post some more pictures when I find a better lighting source. You'd probably laugh if you saw what I use for my lighting source. |
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Below please find a more pleasing example of the WW Wilbur SC-5 variety, in brass, in Fine/Choice Fine condition.
I recently acquired it in an effort to supersede the lesser grade SC-5 variety currently in my cabinet (as pictured in an earlier posting.) I believe it possesses significantly better coloring, and a much more acceptable planchet.
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- Cheetah
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03/25/2011 6:47 pm
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Below please find an example of the WW Wilbur SC-10 variety. This particular WW Wilbur variety is struck on copper, and is an Obverse-3 type struck on the bushy tree reverse.
I acquired it yesterday at the Whitman show in Baltimore. Though it possesses damage to its surfaces, it demonstrates excellent 'Extra Fine' details.
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- Cheetah
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The auctioneer is much more detailed on this token than most I have seen and its well struck. The pitting is unusual as the token doesn't exhibit all that much wear. Thanks for sharing.
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W.W. Wilbur SC9 29mm Copper Token is slightly bent at the 11 o'clock area Obverse  Reverse  |
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Nice. And it looks like another SC-10. Don't see that particular variety very often!
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I recently picked up this piece at auction. Upon searching the CCF, I see that I never got around to posting pics of some in my collection. It seems that I spend all too much time on the counterstamps ...   |
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I acquired it yesterday at the Whitman show in Baltimore. Though it possesses damage to its surfaces, it demonstrates excellent 'Extra Fine' details. Cheetahcats, if you are interested in the damage. I am 95% sure that your token was thrown in the air and hit with a shotgun blast. I have done this with several coins myself and own a 1796 British penny that was hit by a shotgun blast and the damage your token displays is totally consistent with birdshot strike. Because of the different size and depth of the strike marks I would bet this was shot with mid-19th century shot and a black powder load. The different strike angles are consistent with traveling through the shot column as the object begins to tumble with the first strike and the following BBs hitting it at a different angle. Such damage does give one much to think about. |
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