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Valued Member
United States
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I have some favorites but ultimately they are all for sale for the right price. realisticly how many silver coins do you think are going to the smelters? How many active silver mines are there in the world at this time?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1554 Posts |
It's fun to sell, buy, and trade! Don't get to attached to anything. There is always something more interesting down the road!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1510 Posts |
well there is alot of silver digging in Nevada
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3184 Posts |
I have no problem getting rid of problem coins or coins that are worn. I like to buy coins that are in better condition to replace any problem coins I have.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
844 Posts |
My wife and I were discussing this last night. I bought a whole bunch of old silver Quarters for a really good price. Along with those were about one hundred other various coins, some silver, and about two hundred wheat's. My first thought was turning in the silver. I could get more just out of the silver quarters than I paid for all of them. When I mentioned it to my wife she suggested holding on to them.
We were wondering, if all these quarters are going to melt, what happens to the value of the survivors? Silver quarters are already scarce in circulation and roll hunting. The current trend will make them that much more scarce, wouldn't it? The quarters I bought are in VF-20 and EF-40 condition. Out of 15, only one is thoroughly worn. (G-4)
I would hate to send these to melt and regret it later. What do you think?
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Valued Member
United States
293 Posts |
These days do most coins sold at melt value actually get melted? Maybe I'm weird, but I would prefer to buy junk silver in the form of silver coins because they were government issued and contain a specifically known quantity / percentage of silver. Unlike random bars which likely are what they say, but how do you know for sure? Just seems weird to me to actually melt them down...
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Valued Member
United States
361 Posts |
I usually hesitate, thinking "what if silver hits $40.00 next month". Lost a bunch in the .com collapse too.....LOL Live and learn
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1590 Posts |
The coin dealer I deal with scraps hundreds of dollars ( face value) silver each week. If you don't get there at the right time just about every silver coin he gets in goes to the scrapper. I have seen him cut up late 50s to 70 proof sets for the silver coins and throw the nickels and dimes in the register. I have seen him send to the scraper almost a hundred sets of 50 state silver proof coins. Why? Because he gets about $5.50 apiece for them. I have seached bags of dimes, quarters, and halves that were on their way to the scrap bucket and pulled out lots of 1940s/50s bu Rosies, 49-63 Bu franklins, 40s and 50s bu Washington quarters, I pulled a 1913P Barber half from the scrap pile. He rarely searches anymore, his focus is on making a lot of money before it burst. ON the plus side he buys silver at 80 percent of melt and sells at melt. So I have gotten a lot of really nice MS and Proof Franklins for melt. He does not care about the dates anymore. So, yeah, LOTS of coins are going to the scrappers. Millions. He told me that the local refinery is backlogged right now. I have also filled a nice dansco full of Roosevelts at $2 to $2.50 apiece, regardless of date, mintmark or condition.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is how our collections will become valuable, when silver goes up stuff gets melted, when silver goes down people buy and hold. Eventually common silver coin will be worth more than melt and melting will end. Nobodies melting bust dimes.
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
Perspective: We lived through this twice; the silver certificate redemption in 1968 and the silver boom in 1980. People saved SC back, figuring that since they were being redeemed, they'd have them for sale to future collectors. Guess what? The SC we would have paid $2.25 for in 1968 (and bought thousands of, if they had them) they can now get about $1.50 for from a collector, if they're lucky. In 1980, people saved back silver coins, using many of the arguments above. When silver prices dropped (and they will drop--nothing goes up forever), they found they were holding coins that were worth less than when silver was the same price before rising. Why? Take a collector putting together a set (or several sets) of Washington quarters. He needs the 32d+s, maybe the 37s and a couple others. Mid-79, his quarters were worth less than a buck each, early-80, these coins he paid a quarter for are now worth $5 a pop. He sells. But some refused. Fast forward a few years, and silver prices fell. The savers want to sell, for whatever reason. The common dates are now worth a lot less than $5, because silver is down. Semi-keys like 40d, 55d, 37s, 36d, etc, are worth a premium, but it's less than they were worth before the run-up. But how can this be? So many were melted. True, but many of the semi-keys were held back, both by collectors and dealers cherry-picking incoming sets before scrapping them. All those collectors who dumped their sets in 1980 no longer needed the semi-keys to complete them, and there were a bunch more of them in dealers' inventories. The keys also decreased below pre-runup prices. If you dumped your collections in 1980, you don't need the 32d+s to complete them anymore. There are prolly the same amount available (doubtful anyone turned them in for $5), but there are far fewer collectors. Finally, remember that the gubmint melted 350 million silver $ in the early 1900s (roughly three per American), yet you could still walk into any bank and order as many $1000 bags of BU dollars as you wanted for face, in the early 60s. Even today, assembling a bag of MS65 Morgans would be easy.
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
Quote: . I have seen him cut up late 50s to 70 proof sets for the silver coins and throw the nickels and dimes in the register. I doubt that he would turn down an offer of more than scrap value for the silver coins. At one point, I had a buyer for the cheapest, mangiest silver dollars (holes, etc) I could find. I even had refiners shipping them to me. BTW, I'd shoot for those dimes from the register. The problem with this "save the coins" attitude is that the ones who are telling the dealer to save them aren't willing to back their opinion with cash. It's like these hysterical commissions that tell people what they can do with their property, but aren't willing to BUY the property and fix it themselves.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It all makes sense. I'm still going to hold onto the quarters and see if silver goes up any more. If it bottoms out before I unload them, then no big deal. I'll just have more for my collection.
Back to the original topic, if the price is right, I'll be ok with turning them in for melt. I may hesitate on the really special coins. Coins like Morgan CC's etc in superb condition. That would make me cry I think. Anyhoo, it's all a matter of personal choice.
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Valued Member
United States
327 Posts |
I scrapped a bunch of common Barber, Mercury and Roosevelt dimes and some bad Franklin halves along with some less than pristine Peace dollars. All were purchased over the last two years at below then-spot prices. I did well cash wise, but as is pointed out above, they were very worn and not really collection worthy. I held the stuff that was above melt numismatically. I made money, which will be plowed back into yet more coins.
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Valued Member
United States
155 Posts |
My problem is that I cannot part with any of my silver coins. I have been thinking about selling my mercs and walkers (the few that I have are scrap) in order to really upgrade my Kennedy half short set and maybe pick up some mid-grade morgans or Peace dollars. But the problem is, each time I sit down to photograph them for ebay, I stop and just put them back into my coin table. Oh well, one day I guess haha
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3184 Posts |
the more 90% that is melted, the happier I am as my 90% becomes worth more :D
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