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Now This Is What You Call A 1972 Doubled Die!

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 Posted 03/18/2011  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Enjoy it while it's still here as I've got the distinct feeling it's going to be moved forthwith to a more appropriate sub-forum.
Right you are.


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Yah.. it does need moved.. as soon as Chuck verifies who gets extra credit
Sorry, I moved it before I saw your post.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list

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eddiespin - feel free to add this to my world doubled die thread:
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=79097

Done.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Thanks!

Now we just need the answer to the class!

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 Posted 03/18/2011  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list
Jbuck, with all the recent talk about the 1972 LMC doubled dies in the U.S. Coins forums I just felt it was my solemn duty to show those folks over there what a real 1972 doubled die looks like!

PS: Thanks for your understanding (for a little while, anyway).
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 Posted 03/18/2011  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I probably could have (should have) understood a little longer, but I was on a topic-move roll when I saw this one.

We do get a lot of topics posted in the wrong forum. Most are honest mistakes (no problem, we fix them). However, some are done because the poster frequents that particular forum. This is bad because people looking for that particular information will not see it.

This one was a tough call. I considered moving to the Main forum because it does straddle both sides, but I think the World Collectors might benefit from the discussion. I still might move it after it dies down a little.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
I'm more worried about it being moved to where coppercoins won't see it.

Inquiring minds want to know!

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 Posted 03/18/2011  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Good point. I am going to move it back temporarily since he has been posting everywhere else in the last few hours.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Yeah...I had no idea where it went.

The correct answer is...



Scooby Due with class IV (4) offset hub doubling. The whole secondary design is shifted in a single cardinal direction (this time to the northwest). Other doubled dies that share this class are 1936 1c DDO-001, 1983 1c DDR-001, and 1984 1c DDO-001 (the doubled ear). This is not the most common class of doubling, but it is by far not the lesat common either.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Of coure there are likely a number of other decent U.S. issued doubled dies that are of this class, not just cents. Thing is, I can't name one of them because all I do is cents.

I believe there is a 1943 nickel with this class on the obverse, but I cannot be sure of it.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Woo-hoo!

So, the doubled image, not the primary image is the deciding factor for classifying the direction?
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 Posted 03/18/2011  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
You know what, I feel this thread can stay right here. It is a good for the "Modern US Variety & Error Coins" regulars to see examples from the dark side. The unfamiliar design may eliminate some judgment bias.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Umm, sorry...the spread is southeast.

DDOs - direction FROM the secondary TO the primary.

RPMs - direction FROM the primary TO the secondary.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Thanks Chuck. I don't recall ever seeing that explained anywhere. Or I have just missed it somehow.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list
Coppercoins, thanks; I must be improving, I was only two classes off out of 9!

Jbuck, cool, that was kind of my thinking, too; it has some, let's call it, marginal relevance.
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 Posted 03/18/2011  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
There is a nice 1939 DDR Jefferson nickel that is Class IV. There are also several 1942 DDO Jeffersons that are Class IV.

Oh..the 1942 dated pieces are not silver alloy.

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