Creased Nickels? New Pictures Added.

I love that some people here are truly hungry for knowledge!

This is an excerpt from a thread by well known authority, BJ Neff. In it he describes what I believe is the same phenomenon. He has worded it better than I was able to convey, though it's the same principle. He's referring to a cent in this case, but we can assume that the same occurs with on the nickel dies.

"This is a bleed through of a design element. It occurs at during the later stages of the die, when after continuous striking of planchets, the force from the hammer die is transferred through the planchet and onto the anvil die. This creates a die dent on the anvil die, in this case, the out line of Lincoln's bust. One big clue in detecting this anomaly is that there is no corresponding die clash marks on the hammer die. The reason why is that the force generated from the hammer die strike is downward, through the planchet and anvil die, where it is dissipated into the base where the anvil die sits."

This makes perfect sense to me, anyone else?

Interesting excerpt by BJ.

But, the area in question is almost all field on field. The die dent from relentess striking does make sense, but this doesn't seem to be a design element bleeding through.

I'm certainly not arguing with him, just more food for thought.

Jason: You came came to me today. And guess what? It is something different than all have imagined as to what caused it.
Some thoght it was damage.
Some thought it was a clash.
Some didn't know.
But after looking at the coin, I've figured it out. The mark that appeared to be a crease is really the surface of the normal die. The area to the right of it was removed to remove a clash. They used something that took a wider swath than what we figured be necessary. In other words they abraided the die in the area to the right of the crease and all coin after that would have now a raised area. I have images that may help to see what happened:

This shows the area that was abraded circled and the crease is present.


This is the area where the concentrated polishing took place.
Hope this helps.

It is just a worked over die. Just a phase that most dies go through. Now we know what caused it. It fills in a new chapter in what happens to dies and why. Thanks for sending it to me. It's headed back your way tomorrow.

It was one of those coins that a hand on approach was the only way to tell for sure what was going on. Images are just one dimensional. It was a learning experience for me as well. Glad to help out.

Cool! That's awesome coop.

We all learned something today!

Good eye Jaymon.