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96-P Jefferson ... Double Clip PMD?

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 Posted 03/26/2011  10:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I pulled this XF40 1996-P Jefferson from a roll last night. I believe (for reasons explained below) that it is PMD.


96-P-Jefferson-...-Double-Clip-PMD?

Sooo ... the coin weighs 4.96 grams ... right on target weight of 5.00 grams. The lack of any significant weight loss is clue #1 that the 'clips' are not a lack of material.

I observe that the rim upset is complete through the area of the clips (both obverse and reverse) and that the legends flow around the clip areas.

Seeing as the 'clips' are 180 degrees apart ... coupled with the observations above ... leads me to the conclusion that someone somehow squeezed this coin with a convex set of tools to create the two clips.

In other words .... good old PMD.!

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David
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Correct. The damage left the rims in tact which would not be the case for a incomplete planchet. Probably placed in a vise and cranked it some. You can see where the devices were changed in shape. PMD
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Incomplete planchets are a random occurrence. The symmetry of both sides of your coin exposes it as intentional damage.
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I'm not sure I completely get that statement...

Are you saying that double clips cannot happen straight across from one another?
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I was hopeful this would be a learning post for newbie members ... thus my detailed explanation as to why this is PMD.

That said ... perhaps I can do some terminology learning as well ... I'm studying hard to use the proper terms .... so help me with this ...

coop wrote ...


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You can see where the devices were changed in shape.


I used the term 'legend' when referring to the distorted lettering that surrounds the rim of this coin ... I associate the devices with Jefferson portrait and Monticello.

Appears to me the devices are fine ... but the legend is indeed distorted at the location of the vise squeeze job.

Did I get the terms mixed up?

David
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