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Pillar of the Community
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No explanation from PCGS? Wonder if they believe it has been cleaned. Not a bad coin at all though.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The reverse certainly looks cleaned. I'd send it, in slab, to NGC's conservation people and get it looking like a coin again, then see if it will grade. I would never have sent in a coin that looked like that for slobbing.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Cleaned, but not a bad looking coin....better than a scratch.
Not sure what you're thinking fred, NCS can't do anything for this coin. Do you even know what they do there? You're best off leaving it in the PCGS holder just as it is.
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BadThad-
Please educate me (us). I realize it's difficult to tell from the pix, but the stuff near the rim looks to me like either dirt or something acetone would remove.
The cheekbone color looks like something is on the copper, as opposed to wear.
If that is scratches at the K2 rim, they'd look better again a consistent background color, where the dirt (?) serves to accentuate them.
If that's the actual color of the reverse, then yeah, I don't think there's anything that can be done for that aspect.
What is it you're seeing?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see no problem ! Here you have the KING of LWC , very good looking coin with all details slabbed as a genuine . Looks cleaned so what ? All Lincoln collectors are dreaming with a coin just like yours ! Sure if they graded and wrote cleaned you would get more value but we can all see is a vf to xf cleaned genuine 1909s VDB so congratulations I'm still searching rolls to find one like that I mean don't have to a beauty like yours but just just genuine as yours lol . |
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Do you know anything about the history of this coin? If it is PCGS certified, they may be able to verify it by the numbers or barcode. I'm new to the forum, so this may be a bad suggestion, but will PCGS, or any of the outfits that slab coins, have records you can access?
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Valued Member
 United States
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I sent this coin to PGCS myself. I am not a seasoned collector and have been cramming myself with information for the last several months. I suppose, in retrospect, I might have made a different choice as to TPG but, that ship has sailed. I took the coin along with a 1900 Lafayette and a book of Morgans to my local dealer. He bought the Morgans and suggested PGCS grade the Lafayette and the S VDB. Both came back genuine but ungradable. They didn't like the color of the Lafayette. I suppose, in retrospect, I might not have sold the Morgans either but, I was a lot less smart then.  I do appreciate all the input, this is an excellent resource for those of us just learning the ropes. Thank you all. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Please educate me (us). I realize it's difficult to tell from the pix, but the stuff near the rim looks to me like either dirt or something acetone would remove.
The cheekbone color looks like something is on the copper, as opposed to wear.
If that is scratches at the K2 rim, they'd look better again a consistent background color, where the dirt (?) serves to accentuate them.
If that's the actual color of the reverse, then yeah, I don't think there's anything that can be done for that aspect.
What is it you're seeing?
1) NCS is a conservation service and NOT a repair service. They cannot "fix" a cleaned coin. 2) NCS won't even accept a cleaned coin (see above). It would get sent right back to the submitter untouched. 3) The coin looks off colored in spots and dirty because whoever cleaned it did an incomplete job. It's also likely the coin has retoned some. 4) Why would you crack a PCGS slab and use acetone on a coin that's already been abused? Enough is enough, all that could happen is even more damage and a worse looking coin. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Your PCGS number should look something like ####.##/#########. The two digits after the dot show the problem they found:
91 Artificial Color
92 Cleaning
93 Planchet Flaw
94 Altered Surfaces
95 Scratch / Rim Dent
97 Environmental Damage
98 Damage
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Rest in Peace
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BadThad-
Thanks for the explanation.
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Valued Member
United States
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PGCS number is 2426.98.14272815. Indicates damage, I misspoke about machining, sorry.  |
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Rest in Peace
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So what are they calling damage? Are those scratches at k2? Or the reverse cleaning?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My thinking is the damage is the stuff on the obverse rim.
Wouldn't cleaning be a different code?
Or is cleaning considered damage? I didn't think it was.
Either way a great coin and working it's way up my want list!
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Valued Member
United States
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Here are some, I hope, better pics.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hard to tell with those pics but I'm thinking VF-25 details
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