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Burgundy Toning On Mercury Dime

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 Posted 04/01/2011  06:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Awesome Wally to your friends list
I really like the toning on the reverse of the '45. Very dramatic.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
The 1936 looks AT to me and I don't believe it would pass muster at PCGS, NGC or ANACs.

The 1945 on the other hand would.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
May I say this - this is why in the future I will collect Mercury dimes. The toning that comes no these things, well it comes in so many different types. That 1945 you posted is my absolute favorite type on these coins. It's like someone is saying "check out the reverse on this coin"

The original coin, in my opinion (which isn't a great one) is natural. My father has some Roosies in an album that have toned really dark over time. His are gritty and unattractive unfortunately. I think yours is pretty cool and worth throwing in a 2x2 to hold onto.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list
Thanks all who have commented so far! The 1945-S is actually already in an NGC slab - MS-68, although it'd be a MS-67 by PCGS standards.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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The 1936 looks AT to me and I don't believe it would pass muster at PCGS, NGC or ANACs.

The 1945 on the other hand would.

I'm far from a toned coin fan but I like just the opposite of the above. As already noted teh 45 is already graded but I still like the uniqueness of the 36 much more. Again, not fan of toning but if a coin is toned, I would prefer it to be different.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
May I ask how much you paid for the 45? If I remember it's a common date, but still in that grade +toning... I'm just curious as what I'm looking at when I get to that bridge.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list
lukky - Yes, the 45-S is one of the more common at high grades. I paid $315 for mine. When I was buying mine, I saw another, also NGC MS-68 with a less attractive obverse (a bit splotchy) but similar reverse for $275 that sold fast. I've also seen them listed on ebay at that grade for $450+ with comparable toning.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
Fair enough price in my opinion. If the toning trend continues (which I suspect it will) then that coin will shoot up in value. I'm a fan of keeping my coins out of holders, but I would almost have to keep that one in the slab, just so there would be no risk of the toning changing.

Both are very nice pick ups. Congrats on the additions
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 Posted 04/01/2011  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list

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That was my problem too - I'm definitely not comfortable saying it's natural because I haven't seen natural like that. But it doesn't look obviously artificial either. I'll also note that it does not smell like sulfur.
Both those coins are tarnished. All tarnish is natural. The only remaining question is, do you like them? Don't fall into the popular trap of trying to determine the mode of onset, that's a sucker's game. Nobody can do that. Rather, keep your eye on the coin, and determine whether or not you like it. That's all there is to it.

PS: FWIW, how I feel about both those coins: .
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 Posted 04/01/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list

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Both those coins are tarnished. All tarnish is natural. The only remaining question is, do you like them? Don't fall into the popular trap of trying to determine the mode of onset, that's a sucker's game. Nobody can do that. Rather, keep your eye on the coin, and determine whether or not you like it. That's all there is to it.


If the only one you are trying to please is yourself ... I wholeheartedly agree. But then if that were the case here, why did he ask the question? That "sucker's game" can mean a lot of $$ on either the + or - side for some folks here and they need to have an understanding of the toning process and what the market will/won't accept. For this reason I will continue to give my advice based on my personal experiences when folks ask for it here.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list
I do definitely like the coin, especially because I have not seen that sort of toning before. I just don't want to feel like an amateur if it turns out I've fallen for some 'it cooked for an hour on 350 degrees' sort of trick.

SeatedNut - You bring up the point of a good point with the $ given what the market will/won't accept. Given the low cost, I didn't hesitate to pick it up given that it had some colors I haven't seen on a coin before. However if it was $50, I would have definitely thought twice about it, unless I was familiar with the sort of toning and new it was market-acceptable. While I'm buying coins I like, I also want to be buying at market-reasonable prices.
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I do definitely like the coin, especially because I have not seen that sort of toning before. I just don't want to feel like an amateur if it turns out I've fallen for some 'it cooked for an hour on 350 degrees' sort of trick.
Supposing you later found out both of those coins were. Would you not like them anymore?

Look, we all collect how we want. I told you how I look at this. Good luck.
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If the only one you are trying to please is yourself ... I wholeheartedly agree. But then if that were the case here, why did he ask the question? That "sucker's game" can mean a lot of $$ on either the + or - side for some folks here and they need to have an understanding of the toning process and what the market will/won't accept. For this reason I will continue to give my advice based on my personal experiences when folks ask for it here.
I hear what you're saying. I mean it. I think that "market's" off their nut, though.
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 Posted 04/03/2011  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
the toning looks great on both coins
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 Posted 04/07/2011  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colosfj to your friends list
I use a metal detector and have found this kind of toning on coins (silver) in playground tan bark around the monkey bars.
The coin can't be in the bark for long or it will turn much darker.
Most of the ones that I have found were not in such good shape though.
I have seen nickels turn just plain red in a couple of weeks, I have a XF 1926-s Buffalo that is red from finding it in the bark.

I do like the looks of both coins, they would be keepers
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