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Pillar of the Community
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flat clinch staplers ... available at any office supply store I have found...
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 United States
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I have a flat stapler, but I have to use pliers every so often to get the staples totally flat.
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Valued Member
Canada
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My coin flips are air tight. I use 4 staples for each 1.5 x 1.5. The flat back stapler I use does not require pliers as the staples are tight and flush to the cardboard. Despite a lot of paranoia I have heard on this forum I believe 2 x 2's are excellent for long term storage. Once uncirculated coins are safely in and put in an album they will stay pristine for my life time.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That must apply to all the Scotch Brand tapes? I use Magic Tape, the invisible kind. Thank you for this information I tried finding the info on there web site but found nothing. For some reason many companies do not post a decent or toll free phone number on their web sites. Takes a little searching but eventually I find tham. I like to call since very little detaails of a products forulae are publicly displayed. Quote:
My coin flips are air tight. I use 4 staples for each 1.5 x 1.5. The flat back stapler I use does not require pliers as the staples are tight and flush to the cardboard. Despite a lot of paranoia I have heard on this forum I believe 2 x 2's are excellent for long term storage. Once uncirculated coins are safely in and put in an album they will stay pristine for my life time. Basically all true. However, why bother with a staple on the side that is a flip over of the material? Usually most dealers only staple the sides that could or would open. And it is not so called paranoia since it you do try that test I mentioned about blowing your breath on a opening side after stapling, you would easily see those are far from ait tight. Yet it is sort of true that they should last your life time but then too how long is that?  Just kidding you know. And although many, many have no problems with a 2x2 that is stapled, there are those that say just the opposite. For me it is easier to open a taped one, no air can get to the coins if taped, cheaper to use tape, no special tools required to seal a 2x2, no possible damage to a coin when prying a staple out. To each their own. |
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Just Carl. I recently went to a coin show in Buffalo NY. I brought both of my 1877 IHC so that I could some dealers to look at them. I was told by more than one on the dealers there that my coin flips should have 4 staples. In the past I only stapled the 3 open sides. Taking their advice I went home and put a 4th staple in the rest of my coins. Maybe it is not necessary but I like to keep all my coin flips in my books stapled the same way. |
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I have found that sometimes, especially with a thinner coin, that the fourth staple is necessary to keep it from sliding into that hole. I have had more than one dark side coin shift into that area. I do not put a fourth staple in all of my 2x2s, just the ones that I think could be a problem.
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Valued Member
United States
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If you are worried about how "air tight" it is, you could always use mylar Saflips. A TEW tish-200c impulse sealer is more than enough power to seal the flips and can be bought used for under $40. The sealer is multipurpose enough that you can use it to seal food bags amongst other things as well.
You can also purchase mylar sheet and create your own custom sealed flips for larger coins and medals. Or you can create rigid, water-proof inserts for your coin mailings. There's quite a bit you can do with an impulse sealer on hand, whether you're a collector or a dealer.
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United States
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Thanks for the tip, NPCOIN.
This is a great thread for a beginner, like me. I have alway wonderd about 2x2s and packaging. I am sure it greatly varies, depending on your needs and view.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the tips, very informative to novices.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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HA! I thought I was the only one who flattened out the staples on 2x2's!
I use 4 staples on my 2x2's. That seems to make it air tight.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:Just Carl. I recently went to a coin show in Buffalo NY. I brought both of my 1877 IHC so that I could some dealers to look at them. I was told by more than one on the dealers there that my coin flips should have 4 staples. In the past I only stapled the 3 open sides. True that many dealers do use 4. And as jbuck pointed out he has had coins move to the flipped over portion. Not sure though of what type is being mentioned though. I've always found if you use the exact size flip for a coin, they just don't move at all. Many people tend to use a Cent/Dime, Quarter/Nickel, Dollar/Half to same money on many differnt sizes so that means some coins have room to move. Also, there are many manufacturers of those flips and some just don't close as good as otherss. At coin shows I've seen many dealers that do use 4 staples per 2x2, yet I've also seen them with 3 or even only 2 staples. Dealers for the most part usually don't want to waste money on excessive staples since they are selling coins, not preserving them for long terms. Also, I've noticed some dealers putting the staples really close to the coins and others as far from the coins as possible. Many different reasons for what anyone does. My main concern with any amount of staples is if the coin has to be removed for any reason, it is easier, cheaper, safer to just tape all edges. I don't shake, drop, throw 2x2's so once closed, they basically stay as is until I need the coins. |
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United States
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Not sure though of what type is being mentioned though. I've always found if you use the exact size flip for a coin, they just don't move at all. In my experience, that is correct. I have no problem with cents in cent holders, nickels in nickel holders, etc. Even a nickel in a quarter holder, or a quarter in half holder is okay. I should have mentioned that my problems have always been with my dark side coins. Especially the ones that are a size between the normal US sizes and thin (like a dime or thinner). This is one reason why I have been planning a new project for my dark side coins. I want to move them to Dansco millimeter pages. They are already in Dansco albums with 12-pocket 2x2 pages; I just want to move them to the normal rigid pages with the slides. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, right sized works best. But, when I put a dime in a cent holder, I always put 4 staples in. I don't buy dime size 2x2s.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Wow 200 flips for $40. Thats expensive. I have about 5000 coins in flips. At that price they would cost me over $1,000. Where I live my local coin dealer sells the flips for $2.50 per 100. The quality is good.
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Valued Member
United States
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I don't know where this came from, but while reading this thread I had a wacky idea...
I wonder what plastic material is used with vacuum sealers and if it's safe for coins. If one is extremely concerned about being air tight and has a big volume of coins to make airtight, possibly you could just lay 20 coins down on some vacuum sealer plastic and seal them up while leaving enough room between each coin for a full seal. Then cut out each coin as you would with a US mint set in the cellophane (just much more air tight) and put them in binders for display. It'd be ugly, it'd be non-standard, it'd probably/maybe eat your coins over the years, but it'd be air tight and cheap!
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