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Forty Three Dollar Silver Really?

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 Posted 04/16/2011  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I understand people wanting to talk about silver not yet reaching the inflation adjusted historic high. The problem with that logic is that the historic high most people use was created through market manipulation. That makes it an "artificial" high that isn't good for comparison purposes.
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 Posted 04/16/2011  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list
I woke up asking that same question. $43 dollars? Really? It is bittersweet because just a few days ago I bought at 41.25 - why didn't I buy more? The biggest question I ask myself is correction. When will it happen? If it does, I would consider it a sale on PM and I will pick up more. I am in this long term. Good luck.
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 Posted 04/16/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list
Imagine being a dealer, and trying to buy & sell each day, dealing with customers that also hope to make a profit, and trying to stay in business. Who do the dealers sell all the stuff they buy from the collecting public. Other dealers, wholesalers?
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 Posted 04/16/2011  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
JackB, mostly the dealers mark it up and sell it to other customers.
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 Posted 04/16/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list
This whole thing makes me want to cry. About 3 years ago, I just had a real strong urge that we NEEDED to buy silver. I just had a "feeling." I even talked to the wife about it, we checked out books from the library, read up on it, everything... We were extremely close to doing it, then the wife suddenly decided we couldn't afford it as our jobs were both iffy.

Silver was at $12-15 an ounce at that point, and we're both still employed @ the same places.
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 Posted 04/16/2011  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it Secretagentman, minus a time machine or a crystal ball, no one could have knew for sure....

I laughed like all get out in that silly movie "Hottub time machine", as the goof ball character of the movie after going back in time used all his knowledge of the future to make himself into a billionaire complete with hot wife and big yacht....

Yes his name was Lou and he created Loogle....
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 Posted 04/16/2011  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
SecretAgentMan,I had a similar experience with Ford stock. When it was at $1.50 a share I had an extra $1500 I was looking to invest. I thought real hard about 1000 shares of Ford and my wife agreed. I decided not to and 7 months later it was $15 a share,I could have turned $13,000 in profit and put it all into PM's. I am still kicking myself for doubting my instincts. Oh well,I guess we live and learn!
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 Posted 04/17/2011  03:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list
A lot of people are under the false impression that the sole reason silver hit close to $50 in '80 was the Hunt brothers. That is baloney. The Hunt's began their silver spree many YEARS before silver rose to it's peak. They may have played a part, but people give them too much credit. The '70s and '80s saw all sorts of economic turmoil, energy crisis, oil crisis, the Iranian hostage situation, the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, rising consumer price index and interest rates, etc... There were plenty of fundamental reasons for silver to shoot to historic highs.
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 Posted 04/17/2011  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
I would buy that MitchHailey. In the end how much really can one or two people have in the bigger picture of the world, and all those other factors you mentioned can't be overlooked....
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 Posted 04/17/2011  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list

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Secret Argent Man: we're both still employed @ the same places.

Be thankful for that. How many unemployed people have had to sell their bullion and numismatic items since the fall of 2008?
If you're still in a position to buy silver, I would suggest better-date to key-date 90% coins.

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 Posted 04/17/2011  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I'm not surprised at all. The dollar become worthless, world events, a Government that has their spending out of control. $92 sounds good but, in the short term, I can see $50 silver easy.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Good stuff DNA, I came up with that quote, as Sel691 mentioned on my first post that there was a Studebaker Silverhawk if memory served him correctly, and it did....

Maybe I should sell my silver here when it hits 150 an oz, and buy this bad boy below, he he he he rof....

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 Posted 04/18/2011  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Only problem with that formula, is gold keeps going up as well, so sell if you must when it reaches 16 to 1 once again.... - Silverhawk

The good news is that silver is moving higher at a faster rate than gold is, so approaching the historic 16:1 gold:silver price IS happening as we watch. Look at the price charts. It wasn't that long ago that we had a ratio of 45:1. Now it is about 34:1... and it's still moving. Once we get in the area of 20:1, that will be the time to be trading in the silver for gold. Gold and platinum have gained about 50-60% since the 2009 lows. Silver prices have almost quadrupled in that same time period.


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never thought this fast either and never thought I would see $50 silver. - Mkman

Some of us are seeing it again.


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I am surprised that with all the economic turmoil, debt situations around the world and riots/wars that silver isn't HIGHER than inflation adjusted historic highs. - MitchHailey

It's still making its run, Mitch. Stay tuned. If we consider what has to occur for silver prices to come down vs. what IS happening that it driving them up, we may very well be in the "you ain't seen nuthin' yet" category.


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This whole thing makes me want to cry. About 3 years ago, I just had a real strong urge that we NEEDED to buy silver. I just had a "feeling." I even talked to the wife about it, we checked out books from the library, read up on it, everything... We were extremely close to doing it, then the wife suddenly decided we couldn't afford it as our jobs were both iffy.

Silver was at $12-15 an ounce at that point, and we're both still employed @ the same places. - Secret Agent Man

Stretch out with your feelings, young apprentice... search your feelings, trust them, and you will know that you are right when you are calm, at peace!

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 Posted 04/18/2011  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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A lot of people are under the false impression that the sole reason silver hit close to $50 in '80 was the Hunt brothers. That is baloney. The Hunt's began their silver spree many YEARS before silver rose to it's peak. They may have played a part, but people give them too much credit. The '70s and '80s saw all sorts of economic turmoil, energy crisis, oil crisis, the Iranian hostage situation, the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, rising consumer price index and interest rates, etc... There were plenty of fundamental reasons for silver to shoot to historic highs.

Yes, they did play a part... a LARGE part. I understand that they were only a couple of guys, but... they also were a couple of billionaires who were using leverage and futures contracts to control a LOT more silver than they could actually afford to buy.

Also, have you looked at the silver price charts of that time period? I'm sure that you have, as they are fascinating. The thing that always struck me was the rapidity of silver's price rise and decline. Rather than a bull market in silver, such as we have now, it was much more of a spike. Such things in commodities are not unheard of but they also invariably come from market manipulation rather than natural bull and bear market forces. There was more to that situation than world events which tend to unfold over time. The oil "crisis" didn't happen over-night either.

I do agree that there was more to the silver price spike than just the Hunt brothers but they did play a significant role in it.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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SecretAgentMan,I had a similar experience with Ford stock. When it was at $1.50 a share I had an extra $1500 I was looking to invest. I thought real hard about 1000 shares of Ford and my wife agreed. I decided not to and 7 months later it was $15 a share,I could have turned $13,000 in profit and put it all into PM's. I am still kicking myself for doubting my instincts. Oh well,I guess we live and learn! - Hockingzig

You're bringing tears to my eyes with this, Hockingzig. I also looked at buying Ford as it slipped below $2 a share... and didn't. The real heck of it was that I had about $50k in an IRA money market that wasn't committed to anything and could have been used easily for that purpose.
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