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September 11th Commemorative Dollar, Would You Buy It?

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 Posted 04/21/2011  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list

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The United States Mint wants to alert consumers and the public about a new product being marketed by a private firm--the National Collector's Mint. The National Collector's Mint advertises this product as a "10th Anniversary September 11th Commemorative Dollar" and claims that it is a "Liberian government authorized legal tender coin."

This product is not a genuine United States coin or medal.


I'd pay $1 for it and no more.
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 Posted 04/21/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list
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 Posted 04/22/2011  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list
Is this a joke?
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 Posted 04/22/2011  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinut to your friends list
I would not take it even if it was given to me, pure junk.
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 Posted 04/24/2011  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list
I saw this months ago. It's a tragedy that those people are using 9/11 to make money. Read the disclaimer the Mint has posted.
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 Posted 04/24/2011  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list

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It's a tragedy that those people are using 9/11 to make money

But it's okay if the U.S. does it?
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 Posted 04/24/2011  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list
No, it is pure & simple greed. NCM & the Liberian government have no connection to the 911 commission. The 911 medal, on the other hand, might be tastefully done & endorsed by the government.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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But it's okay if the U.S. does it?
What you have linked is not a US Mint product.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list

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What you have linked is not a US Mint product.

I never said it was. However the U.S. Mint is going to have their own. That's probably why they are bashing it. So the question is, that it's not alright for the Liberians to make the commemorative, but it is for the U.S.?


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No, it is pure & simple greed. NCM & the Liberian government have no connection to the 911 commission. The 911 medal, on the other hand, might be tastefully done & endorsed by the government.


But does that make it alright for them to do it? It's a question of morals. To profit from the death of others or not.
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 Posted 04/25/2011  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Liberia has ZERO connection to September 11 not to mention the fact that NCM merely pays a licensing fee to Liberia to be able to mint coins under their sovereignty. However, Liberia is just one step above a failed state with their former leader currently on trial at The Hague for Crimes Against Humanity. Look up the word corruption in a dictionary and you just might see a picture of the Liberian Government.

The official September 11 medal to be issued by the US Mint is a fund raising, not profit driven, vehicle with $10 of each purchase going to to the National September 11 Memorial & Museum to support its operations and maintenance.

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 Posted 04/26/2011  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Flook to your friends list
also agree with bio.....id buy the U.S. mint medal....would NOT buy anything from any other government that dealt with 9/11......but to each their own
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 Posted 04/26/2011  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
It may not be profit driven, but that doesn't mean the Mint isn't going to make a profit. Otherwise it would be 100% of the proceeds going to them instead of $10 per purchase.
So what you are saying is that it is okay. And if it is okay to profit from deaths, I can see the mints now. They are minting commemorative coins like mad with former Presidents on them, just waiting for them to die to release them. Sounds morbid and gruesome to me.
Anyways, I think I/we got off topic here. I'm done.
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Otherwise it would be 100% of the proceeds going to them instead of $10 per purchase.

You seriously expect the Mint to produce the medals at a LOSS by turning over 100% of proceeds to the 9/11 Memorial? I think that is a rather untenable position regardless of where the proceeds are going, the US Mint is not a charity organization.

Judging by your comment about dead Presidents, I think you have a profound misunderstanding about what the Mint can actually do- their only task is to produce the nation's coinage. Coin and Medal legislation is proposed and written by Congress and this specific legislation was written by Rep. Gerald Nadler(D-NY) whose district includes Lower Manhattan. The legislation has to pass both the House and Senate and then be signed by the President. Once the law is signed, it is sent to the Commission of Fine Arts and the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee for them to help select potential designs based upon the wording of the legislation. For the 9/11 medal, it is worded as such-

The legislation calls for a design "emblematic of the courage, sacrifice, and strength of those individuals who perished in the terrorist attacks of Sept.11, 2001, the bravery of those who risked their lives to save others that day, and the endurance, resilience, and hope of those who survived."

Specific verbiage shall be an inscription of the years 2001-2011 and an inscription of the words "Always Remember."



Once the CFA and CCAC make recommendations on designs, the Secretary of Treasury is responsible for picking the final design but Little Timmy Tax Cheater apparently holds those two groups in contempt since he seems to often select designs not recommended(the horribly PC Boy Scout and Platinum Eagle designs come to mind...).

As you can see, the US Mint has very little control over the coins and medals it is tasked with producing. They have no say in series, subject, or design- they can only mint what they are told to mint, simple as that.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
one other thing that hasn't been mentioned when the US mints something they will tell you if its clad or if its pure silver (only two options) The NCM tells and advertises their junk as recovered silver and 100mil of silver over a base metal (but they emphasize the 100mil of silver and barely mention the base metal). If the US Mint coins are silver you know they are up to .999 pure and at least 40% Silver, not some layered crap the "private mints" push to make a profit
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