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Precious Metals Taking A Hit Today.

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Canada
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 Posted 05/05/2011  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

Another 33% hike in silver margins announced by the CME for May 9. Another big drop in silver.

Silver is down about 33% from its high in about five days.
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Poland
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 Posted 05/05/2011  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Murazor to your friends list
It's because of Osama. No matter was he really killed a few days ago or not, people in general trust the government more, so the currency goes up resources like metals or oil go down.
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United States
28 Posts
 Posted 05/05/2011  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddied62 to your friends list
Was nice while it lasted...oh well, should be some good buying oppurtunities coming up with the fall in price
Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 Posted 05/05/2011  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list
I'm really not worried about it (silver/gold). As we enter what is going to be record inflation for much of the western world, things will change.

The drop in platinum on the other hand is really, really ticking me off though, I thought I'd have a specific quantity (post processing) of scrap and cats by way earlier this year and I didn't but I need that much to get the better price at the refinery. Might just as well wait till next year now. I want to say a bad word. Maybe people will start buying lots of cars and drive the price up for me. Not likely though.
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Canada
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 Posted 05/05/2011  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

Fair enough. But, "silver is money" is pretty much destroyed as a valid concept when it loses 12.5% of its purchasing power in a day.

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Canada
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 Posted 05/05/2011  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list
Silver is a commodity. Sometimes money is made from this commodity. Sometimes I collect this commodity made into money. Sometimes I stash bricks of commodity. It doesn't matter, it's there when you need it and it can be traded for money, whatever that happens to be worth at the time. If you are arguing that you should skip the commodity and just keep money, I'm still not following you, since you should have some of both , up to ten per cent commodity as the wizards are fond of saying. 20 kilos of silver doesn't make any difference at all... unless my money was worth nothing and then the silver would be worth a lot in real value terms....

Wealth on the other hand, wealth is land that produces food, liquid fuel, energy and housing. People pay me every day for three of those, in money. I haven't bothered with liquid fuel yet, but I'm considering it.

If you are holding less than ten per cent of your net in PM's, the concept of selling eludes me. It's there as a hedge of sorts against the unthinkable and shouldn't impede your ability to carry on living. What is there to gain by selling?

Unless you just invest to catch the rise... an entirely different matter.
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United States
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 Posted 05/05/2011  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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...so the currency goes up resources like metals or oil go down.

Which is just what the Chinese want to occur. They are buying ALL commodities and the means of producing them, hand over fist. I do not see this changing any time soon. Rather than hold hundreds of billions of US dollars and more hundreds of billions of dollars worth of US Treasuries, they are opting to buy the things that a nation MUST have to support a modern economy. Sure, they will buy oil to use now but they are also buying mines and oil fields to ensure their supplies later. Ditto for rare earths and other metals, including silver, and even copper. There are times when I wonder who the REAL capitalists are in this world.

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United States
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 Posted 05/05/2011  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Well put Ed-B!
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Poland
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 Posted 05/06/2011  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Murazor to your friends list

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There are times when I wonder who the REAL capitalists are in this world.




Pss, psst - its a secret! Yet in China they have a kind of capitalism which they call communism, while in countries like yours and mine there is a form of... well, maybe not communism, but socialism - that is just called capitalism.
Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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 Posted 05/06/2011  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I think silver will stabilise at around the $15 to $20 level, somewhere near the trend line it got away from. OK by Me!
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United States
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 Posted 05/06/2011  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Well put Ed-B!

Thanks, Hock. Appreciate the kind words.


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Pss, psst - its a secret! Yet in China they have a kind of capitalism which they call communism, while in countries like yours and mine there is a form of... well, maybe not communism, but socialism - that is just called capitalism.

Oh, I LIKE that! It's just Orwellian enough to be... THE TRUTH!
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United States
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 Posted 05/06/2011  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Good one Ed, I liked that statement as well, and George Orwell would have agreed. That book 1984, he was on the right track, just ahead of himself about 30 years eh....
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Australia
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 Posted 05/06/2011  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Despite my previous post, there seems to be at least some price stabilisation around the $35 level. OK by me!
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United States
34 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2011  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms32462 to your friends list
with the people with it dropping me too I like to see it 30 oz the but like heck and hopefully it goes up lol
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United States
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 Posted 05/07/2011  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Good one Ed, I liked that statement as well, and George Orwell would have agreed. That book 1984, he was on the right track, just ahead of himself about 30 years eh.... - Silverhawk

Thanks for the kind words. Yeah, Orwell was a visionary for sure. His way of presenting his characters was just hilarious and very appropriate too! If we look at the way that things are turning out, we might have to say that he was an optimist. :-/
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