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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Actually, it was Fred Bowman who first said that the 1858 mintage and the 1859 mintage were both included in the 10 million Provincial cent mintage number published by The Royal Mint. He wrote that over 50 years ago. He calculated the 1858 mintage at 400,000 from a footnote in a much later mint report that reported 9.6 million cents coined in 1859. He deducted 9.6 million from 10 million to get to 400,000. In 2007 I published that both the 10 million and the 400,000 are wrong. I'll leave the explanation of why to those who read the book. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I think the accounting was so atrocious and theft so prevalent that no one has any real idea of how many of anything were minted in the UK. The lousy quality of the pour that resulted in the brass penny should be a clue. Even that mint had better metallurgists than that.
I don't believe any of the records. Not one. Nor do I believe any written explanation based on them because none of them take into account the social facts of the time; corruption was rampant and graft was the rule of the day. It's like ignoring the fact that the sun rises.
No offense intended for the strong opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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None taken, but I think it is a little short-sighted to form such an opinion when you have no idea upon what the conclusion was based.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Michael Findlay is stepping down soon,maybe you guys should take over.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1733 Posts |
No short sightedness required, I stated specifically that conclusions based on PUBLISHED figures were unreliable in my personal opinion and I did not discount by saying this any conclusions that were based on other factors. New data is always relevant to one degree or another.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1733 Posts |
@David,
Uhm, no. I retired once. That's pretty much enough :)
Again, it's much more fun to debate these things over a beer where we realize that the hops quality that year is much more important and we can see the body language and jest incorporated in these musings.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1352 Posts |
Point taken.
I wouldn't like the Trends job very much. Strict deadlines, dealers want high prices, collectors want low prices, flucuating bullion prices affecting many issues, NCLT after market pricing = thankless job I think. Ric, Mike, and anybody else who does it has my respect.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I heard the pay is low,the headaches are high,and lots of B.S. from dealers and some collectors,i seen Mike at a coin show.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
629 Posts |
What does population report of the 1858/1859 large cent have to do with this topic?
The topic here has to do with the frequency of trends being published in the CCN.
I suppose you just like to make comments on obscure things to show that you don't read the topic, just want to express an opinion?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would like to see trends split into six sections so that we have a three month cycle,prices don't change that quickly and perhaps CCN would have increased circulation.
The then empty pages should be filled with more comments and articles.
As for the hijacking,I agree with Ugly,mint records of the time are totally unreliable.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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No need to be ticked, we got off base discussing other things that could be used to fill the empty pages. Relax.
If you want to chop available advertising space there needs to be ways to stretch things out and make what does get published more relevant.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
629 Posts |
Ugly - thanks for the update I will be more patience next time!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2426 Posts |
Leave CCN trends as is. Making trends monthly or every three months serves no purpose! The actual trends will not deviate any more or less. Having trends posted in every edition is probably good for CCN sales as some buy it just for trends. Personally, I toss out my issue once I read them so I like the fact that the trends are there for me when my next issue arrives.
Just my opinion!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I thought Mr Findlay did a god job he brought a personal aspect to the trends and have often thought that the task was rather daunting just by the sure size.
I have no problem with the rotating format.Having a committee will be interesting
Switching with US data would be nice once or 2wice a year, would be a plus.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You guys are subscribers so I don't have to remind you that they rotate price sections every issue (proof-like, Newfoundland, etc).
Once in a while it'd be nice to see some US/UK coin prices in there from time to time.
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