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I Clean My Coins!

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 Posted 05/06/2011  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 14ers to your friends list
Occasionally I will use a little dish soap and water on an especially dirty coin. Is "washing" a coin the same as "cleaning" a coin? Does a gentle wash do any harm to either the coin or the value?
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 Posted 05/06/2011  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Wet non-contact methods are safest, i.e. swishing and rinsing with water or acetone. If you absolutely have to touch the coin with something, make sure you thoroughly rinse with distilled water first to remove any grit and dirt and then only touch a wet object(q-tip, toothpick, rose thorn) to a wet coin. After you are done, thoroughly rinse with water to remove loosened debris and then acetone to remove any traces of water.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list
I have used MS70. I've not used it on silver (as I own so little of it anyway). I have used it on really common inexpensive coins to get the dirt off. I tried it once on an aluminum coin. Oh, what a disaster that was. The thing started sizzling. it was quite fascinating actually. the coin after was potted and really in bad shape. It was an inexpensive experiment gone bad!

something just carl mentioned about getting smaller dollars for cleaned coins. You know that may be true if the buyer is a seasoned collector but I tell you there are a lot of cleaned coins going for plenty of dollars on ebay to someone who obviously has a hole to fill! the cleaning does not seem to detract from getting a lot of dollars for it, relative to krause catalog (and I do know they can be way off).
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 Posted 05/06/2011  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
Same here! But, I don't worry about just taking off a little bit of metal. Hell, they're meant to be shiny, right?!?!

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 Posted 05/06/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
I really don't think that a distilled water or an acetone rinse is "cleaning" your coins. Mitchhailey, you seem concerned about this. Don't the professional grading services use acetone as well?
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 Posted 05/06/2011  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I use acetone myself on some coins, then I use distilled water and a hairdryer. I don't know for sure but I don't think acetone even evaporated should remain on the surface of the coin.
I wouldn't consider this interpretation of cleaning as harmful to the coins.
I think the harm comes from harsh chemical that actually react to metal which I don't think acetone does any and harm comes from friction using something to rub off any oxidation, dirt, grease or other residue from the surface of the coin.
Thus, my second bath in the water for me.
Well not for me, for the coins.
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05/06/2011 4:07 pm
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 Posted 05/06/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lion4Life to your friends list
I use acetone and distilled water on the ones I'm putting into my 7113. It's amazing how dirty they can be even when they look clean.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list
I use vinegar to only clean coins with gunk. But say for example, I I had a Three Cent Silver with junk on it, I probably would leave it alone.
Vinegar is cheap and gives the coin an unjunky appearance, but you can obviously tell if they have been "soaked" as I like to call it.
Even so, every coin I put into a case I write "soaked" on if I have done so.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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something just carl mentioned about getting smaller dollars for cleaned coins. You know that may be true if the buyer is a seasoned collector but I tell you there are a lot of cleaned coins going for plenty of dollars on ebay to someone who obviously has a hole to fill! the cleaning does not seem to detract from getting a lot of dollars for it, relative to krause catalog (and I do know they can be way off).


Unfortuately your absolutely correct. People that just don't know buy cleaned coins all the time. People buy cars with all sorts of problems too and find out the hard way. People take medicines that are supposed to cure Cancer and sometimes die from Cancer.
Regardless or the situation, again, your right. However, that is usually for only average coins. Once they get into a little more on the expensive side, most look into that cleaning stuff. And again your right and many get taken by pretty, cleaned, shinny coins. They are all learning but you just can't educate the entire world.


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Occasionally I will use a little dish soap and water on an especially dirty coin. Is "washing" a coin the same as "cleaning" a coin? Does a gentle wash do any harm to either the coin or the value?

Just one of the typical things people shouldn't use on coins. If you look up cleaning coins on this forums Search tab, you'ld probable run into a lot of reasons not to do that. For one thing there are numersous different types of dish soaps and some will actually discolor a coin horribly. And as to water. There is as many differences in water as in air. If your using tap water, it could contain almost anything possible to be in water. Chlorine, Flourine, Iron Salts, Sodium Salts and no one really knows what is in your piping system.
Spend a dollar and get some distilled water.
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 Posted 05/06/2011  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add christian_cyclist to your friends list
I always check my current batch of acetone to see if it has any water content. Pour one tablespoon into the petri dish. It should all evaporate into nothing and the dish should be dry. I have had some acetone leave a drop or two of water behind.

-- Boris
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 Posted 05/09/2011  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ducat to your friends list
I mainly collect world silver and gold. I find with 50% silver up to pure 999 if you must clean and I admit I do with cheaper bullion class coins I use tin foil in a dish boiling water to cover the coins and sprinkle Bi-Carb soda over them. They clean to a beautiful finish with the chemical reaction. No silver is lost, then rinse. No good for copper, bronze. Try with a cheap worn dirty silver coin.
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 Posted 05/09/2011  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
Ducat - This is a well-known method of cleaning silver that has been tarnished (silver sulfide). Aluminum (or tin) in electrical contact with the silver sulfide will remove the sulfide, leaving the silver behind. The baking soda is necessary to keep everything in electrical contact. The hot water speeds the electrochemical reaction up.

What I'd like to know is, can you tell this has been cleaned under magnification? This is different than some other cleaning methods that remove the silver as well.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dkillett to your friends list
One of the locals around here uses MS70, if I remember correctly, diluted with water. I know he told me it was not full strength. He basically uses it as a dip for silver coins. From what I have seen it works pretty well. I ordered some MS70. Gonna experiment with some crusty old junk 90% coins. Its junk silver, what can it hurt.
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05/14/2011 12:27 am
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 Posted 05/15/2011  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kc_hhsl to your friends list
I understand that one does not want to use and abrasive or a chemical that can have a reaction with the metal. Beyond that what is the issue with cleaning the coin. No you don't want to use wire brushes, sand paper, harsh chemicals -- but will a q-tip or cotton ball damage a coin? As far as chemicals -- acetone is pretty inert.
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 Posted 05/15/2011  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add christian_cyclist to your friends list
I use q-tips but you have to be careful. It is possible to press a worn q-tip hard enough against the coin that the center stick which the cotton is wrapped on will scratch the coin. Ask me how I learned that lesson way back when! You can easily get swirl marks on the coin. Let the cotton fluff a bit and just let it glide over the surface. Most of the oils should dissolve pretty easy and all you're doing is agitating them off. Just think of the PSI the coin feels on the tiny tip of the center stick if you press too hard. It's like chewing food. Do you know how many PSI are exerted on your teeth? Yikes!

-- Boris
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