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 Posted 07/03/2011  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list
Oh, and vote Ron Paul for president, 2012!
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 Posted 07/03/2011  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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They are everywhere with their ears to the railroad tracks.

May they lose their hearing as a train approaches from behind!

I agree with your comments. Anonymity is a potent weapon against the slugs that prey on the fruits of others labors. I live in a nice neighborhood and we do have some thieves who come around here from time to time. Fortunately, the neighbors on both sides of us have noisy alert dogs that a cat would have trouble approaching.

Another thought is that we should avoid bumper or window stickers in our vehicles that advertise potential goodies in our homes. No American Numismatic Society or NRA type stickers. Anything that can be quickly and easily grabbed and converted to cash should not be mentioned to anyone. Our friends and neighbors may well be good people but if they let it slip to their gardener, delivery person, or handyman, who knows what they will do with that info or to whom they may repeat it.

I also agree that vehicles are a dead giveaway for anyone with substantial financial resources. Driving a Beemer, Jag, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. is fine but, for heaven's sake, put it in the garage. Leave the beater pickup or errand running econo-box in the driveway.
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 Posted 07/03/2011  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
The idiot with big shinny wheels, tinted windows, loud radio always is the guy I drive by pulled over by four cops and in the process of being searched as I drive by in my gold four door 2001 Toyota Tacoma which I rarely get up past 45 miles per hour often or much beyond 2000 RPMs. My girlfriend hates it, I drive like a snail, lol. As opposed to again, the guy in the red sports car being hassled every other day....

Of course that is off subject a bit, but thieves have eye's as well and they are attracted to money and wealth no doubt....

As far as posting here pictures here for example, I don't worry. Most all of us has a stash of some sort, so if one really wanted to rob someone, they could just spin the Rolodex so to speak, sell someone an item, TO GET THAT KEY ADDRESS. Of course I don't know any of you in person even though I would bet 99% are trust worthy, and if that is accurate it is that 1% of crooks we all have to watch for. Plus most of us are separated by many miles if not oceans, and for one to get ones address however that could be achieved, then drive hundreds of miles to their home and town, stake them out and eventually rob them. It could happen, but unlikely I would think. Just to much trouble, and an unrealistic perhaps and there are many easier ways for crooks to make their money. Once you got here, you would have just a good of a chance of getting busted, shot, or killed here as you would anywhere else. And you would need a map to the stash in most all cases, and even if you found it, getting in the safes are another animal all its own....

I recall that one story here of that guy who was robbed of like a half a million in silver, via fake cops robbing at gun point and forcing him to open safe, so it does happen. I know he had to run his mouth to the wrong company, or else those crooks would not have known he had a half million in silver. Heist are plotted out every day everywhere....
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07/03/2011 11:57 pm
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 Posted 07/04/2011  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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...and there are many easier ways for crooks to make their money.

And there you have the essence of it, Hawk. Crooks are basically lazy, so anything the good guys can do to make stealing difficult will often convince them to look for easier targets.

Back in my parents day (WWII), they used to say that, "Loose lips, sink ships". They were right about that security issue but we can also apply that to this topic. Unnecessary blabbing about what you have WILL attract the scum of the Earth at some point, so keep it buttoned! Very few people would walk downtown in a major US city with packs of $100 bills showing from their pockets. Blabbing about your gold or silver stash is no different... and it will have the same result.
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 Posted 07/04/2011  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
I used to rent a farmhouse that had been remodeled. One of my friends worked for the contractor, and he showed me the coolest hidden room that I've ever seen. When you go in the closet you would reach down and lift up a piece of baseboard that mounted with three nails which came up out of the floor. As long as that piece of baseboard was in place nothing would move. When you lift the baseboard and remove it the whole wall was hinged and opened into a five foot deep storage area. I know another guy that has one now.
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 Posted 07/04/2011  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
So the door was the wall, and it was hinged at the bottom, and the loose base board on the floor which it was attached to was the handle to the secret room?

Clever little spot....
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 Posted 07/05/2011  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list
That's pretty slick. I'm a big fan of the innocuous as opposed to the big vault screaming "rob me!".

In regards to the guy that lost half a mil in silver -- it was actually more like 150k worth (only marginally less painful for him, I'm sure!) and from what I understood he talked day and night about his stash to his neighbors.
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 Posted 07/05/2011  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Good call Ten Sense, as that 150K just keeps getting bigger an bigger in my mind, like a fish story, or the war story where the guy went from taking out five more guys single handed, to an entire division, lol....
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 Posted 07/05/2011  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list
In the computer industry we have something called a honey pot. Read more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing).

In that vein I've got an idea I want to try. Going to get several larger binders and a bunch of the plastic folders and 2x2's. Then I'll go to the bank and get several rolls of pennies, dimes, quarters, and maybe some of those special 10 lbs of world coins for X dollars. Just enough stuff to get the binders good and heavy. Print up some convincing looking labels and then just leave them more out in the open. Hear thieves always go the master bed room first...
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 Posted 07/05/2011  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list
Nice - a honeysafe.
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 Posted 07/06/2011  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Hidden is good... REAL good! Thieves cannot steal what they do not know is there.

Also like the idea of a hidden room or a vault room.

As a finishing touch, something that looks like it is valuable but isn't makes for a very fine distraction. It also makes a good way to ID the thief when he tries to peddle these somewhere.

I once read about a fellow whose house was broken into. Some thieves stole about $250 worth of stereo gear but left over $35,000 worth of fine porcelain pieces in his collection. All this was in the 2 glass cases next to the stereo. At least they did not break any of it.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Five safes, two SDB, two semis, security systems, six locations, shoot to kill policy.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JackB to your friends list

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Five safes, two SDB, two semis, security systems, six locations, shoot to kill policy

LOL - if you get them in the yard, make sure you drag 'em back into the house; I've that helps in some states!
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 Posted 09/11/2011  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
Seeing that safe sitting there I imagine framing a stud wall in front of it and a sturdy door installed with a good deadbolt installed right in front of the safe. It would really seal the deal.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Five safes, two SDB, two semis, security systems, six locations, shoot to kill policy.

What? No slavering pair of 90 lb. dober-wilers?
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