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David,
I also noticed the last 7. I am pretty sure it's the real deal but, like you, the color looks off.
Spencer, the N's become more pronounced on lower grade coins. You can see it on this coin.
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Well the N on the reverse in ONE is weak, which is what I often use as a telltale sign of authenticity. The seller is top-rated seller with 100% positive feedback, so I'd trust the seller. I would simply and politely ask him a question about whether he'd extend the return policy for allowing it to be certified and if it comes back fake or uncertified if he'd take the coin back. Why a piece that nice is not already certified is really surprising to me and does raise some doubts. This is a $3000+ coin if authentic so it is absurd to not have it certified.
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Already overpriced @ $3K, a TPG would assign it as "questionable color." Most of the raw "red" IHCs on e-Bay are recolored or dipped, and no one really should pay more than a MS60 BN for one. For the price I'd wait for a certified coin in 63 BN or RB. |
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I cracked open Snow's book to 1877, and the full shot of the die pair #1 reverse shows the clashes around the right wreath. The reverse appears to be Rev A, die state B. The obverse should be #4, although I can't spot all the markers. Regarding color,  with David Zerbato--to my eyes somebody tried to make an RB coin out of this, but the splotchy red colors, lack of visible cartwheel, suggest it's dipped and perhaps re-toned over time. Certified is the only way to go on this key.  |
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I don't think I would ever buy a raw, ungraded key date coin online even if you are 100% it is not fake. You still have to estimate a grade based on a photograph. Granted this photo is better than many I've seen on ebay, but even the best photos can be deceiving and cannot compare to having the coin in hand. Just a slight mis grade can cost you thousands. For that price I would be patient and wait for the right certified coin to come along. |
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For one this high of a grade , it would have to be slabbed , but that could just be me.
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This is a $3000+ coin if authentic so it is absurd to not have it certified.
Exactly! I know there are some on the CCF that hate slabbed coins. For the keys, it's a must IMHO. I don't own any keys that are not certified. Quote:
I cracked open Snow's book to 1877 One book I don't have but want swcoin.ecrater.com
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07/26/2011 7:34 pm
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Well it has the weak "n" and the big "7" the two diagnostics I'm aware of. This date is of great interest to me, I actually almost bought a nice G4 example last week; it went for a mere $10 more than my max bid ( ebay). But even that one was slabbed. I wouldn't take the chance of buying this coin uncertified from ebay. Not a fan of the color on this particular coin but quite frankly I don't bother looking at high grade examples because they are out of my price range. If it were, again I would require a slabbed example (then take it out). Yes I'm one of those whom dislikes slabbed coins but see's the necessity in these cases Edited by upstate
07/26/2011 7:49 pm
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Quote:I actually almost bought a nice G4 example last week; it went for a mere $10 more than my max bid ( ebay). But even that one was slabbed. How about my PCGS FR02. Even this one I purchased slabbed    swcoin.ecrater.com
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That's still leagues ahead of that "craters of the moon" coin you posted. |
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It's 1877 indian bonanza week! Lovin it, and can't wait to get my first one ever in the mail! Anyways, the one in the OP looks really nice to me and does appear to have some remaining luster; but I echo other's sentiments towards original color though it doesn't look obviously cleaned to me. If sent to anacs I would guess it would grade MS60 details AT.
Dave, yours has remarkable surfaces for the wear! Nice!
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Thanks John! That's why I bought it  John I saw the thread with the one that's on it's way to you. I graded it a F12. Looked like all letters albeit weak, were there. You should be proud of that one swcoin.ecrater.com
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For fair grade that is a nice piece. Usually fr2 coin are nasty. Quote:
It's 1877 indian bonanza week! Probably one of you guys outbid me on the one I lost   |
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Probably one of you guys outbid me on the one I lost lol, it is frustrating when you lose an auction you really want by one bid. I've had that happen to me more times than I can count. |
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I lost the bid on a coin I wanted really bad by like fifty cents. I just looked at the computer jaw down and ticked. Happens to me a lot too.
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